2021-10-19 06:57:32

by Laurent Pinchart

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Matt Mackall as his identity is obsolete

Hi Tim,

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:17:22PM -0600, Tim Bird wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 3:52 AM Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> >
> > The mails I sent to Matt on September 14 and 20 both were refused by the
> > MTA responsible for selenic.com (i.e. waste.org) with:
> >
> >         554 5.7.1 <[email protected]>: Recipient address rejected: This identity is obsolete
> >
> > Also the most recent commit that involved him (ignoring "Cc: Matt
> > Mackall <[email protected]>" footers) is commit 330e0a01d54c (MAINTAINERS:
> > Theodore Ts'o is taking over the random driver) where he was removed
> > from the entry for random number drivers in 2012.
> >
> > So drop him completely from the list of maintainers.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Uwe Kleine-König <[email protected]>
> > ---
> >  MAINTAINERS | 2 --
> >  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> > index d7b4f32875a9..805630c67a1f 100644
> > --- a/MAINTAINERS
> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> > @@ -6812,7 +6812,6 @@ F:        drivers/media/usb/em28xx/
> >
> >  EMBEDDED LINUX
> >  M:     Paul Gortmaker <[email protected]>
> > -M:     Matt Mackall <[email protected]>
> >  M:     David Woodhouse <[email protected]>
> >  L:     [email protected]
> >  S:     Maintained
> > @@ -8157,7 +8156,6 @@ F:        include/trace/events/hwmon*.h
> >  K:     (devm_)?hwmon_device_(un)?register(|_with_groups|_with_info)
>
>
> I think an overhaul of the "EMBEDDED LINUX" MAINTAINERS entry
> is long-overdue.
>
> No offense to any of the 3 persons listed, but I think the kernel developer
> community would be better served by a group of individuals with a more
> current active role in embedded linux.  I have a few names I'll toss out for
> candidates: Matt Porter, Kevin Hilman, Thomas Gleixner,  Thomas
> Petazonni, Laurent Pinchart, and Uwe Kleine-König (and maybe even
> myself).
>
> This entry in the MAINTAINERS file is somewhat special, in that it
> covers a "field of endeavor" rather than a specific set of files or
> directories.
>
> Thoughts?

Thank you for volunteering me :-)

I was indeed wondering about this particular MAINTAINERS entry. As it
doesn't cover any particular set of files, directories, drivers,
subsystems or architectures, what does being listed here endeavour ?

> ... Volunteers?
>
> >  HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE
> > -M:     Matt Mackall <[email protected]>
> >  M:     Herbert Xu <[email protected]>
> >  L:     [email protected]
> >  S:     Odd fixes

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Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


2021-10-19 09:33:59

by David Woodhouse

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Matt Mackall as his identity is obsolete

On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 09:55 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:17:22PM -0600, Tim Bird wrote:
> > I think an overhaul of the "EMBEDDED LINUX" MAINTAINERS entry
> > is long-overdue.
> >
> > No offense to any of the 3 persons listed, but I think the kernel developer
> > community would be better served by a group of individuals with a more
> > current active role in embedded linux. I have a few names I'll
> > toss out for
> > candidates: Matt Porter, Kevin Hilman, Thomas Gleixner, Thomas
> > Petazonni, Laurent Pinchart, and Uwe Kleine-König (and maybe even
> > myself).
> >
> > This entry in the MAINTAINERS file is somewhat special, in that it
> > covers a "field of endeavor" rather than a specific set of files or
> > directories.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Thank you for volunteering me :-)
>
> I was indeed wondering about this particular MAINTAINERS entry. As it
> doesn't cover any particular set of files, directories, drivers,
> subsystems or architectures, what does being listed here endeavour ?

Basically nothing; I was going to suggest removing it entirely. There's
certainly no point listing me there any more.

Once upon a time it involved a certain amount of heckling about memory
usage and "your hash table doesn't need to be that large" but that ship
sailed a long time ago :)


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2021-10-19 09:48:05

by Laurent Pinchart

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove Matt Mackall as his identity is obsolete

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:33:10AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 09:55 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:17:22PM -0600, Tim Bird wrote:
> > > I think an overhaul of the "EMBEDDED LINUX" MAINTAINERS entry
> > > is long-overdue.
> > >
> > > No offense to any of the 3 persons listed, but I think the kernel developer
> > > community would be better served by a group of individuals with a more
> > > current active role in embedded linux. I have a few names I'll
> > > toss out for
> > > candidates: Matt Porter, Kevin Hilman, Thomas Gleixner, Thomas
> > > Petazonni, Laurent Pinchart, and Uwe Kleine-König (and maybe even
> > > myself).
> > >
> > > This entry in the MAINTAINERS file is somewhat special, in that it
> > > covers a "field of endeavor" rather than a specific set of files or
> > > directories.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thank you for volunteering me :-)
> >
> > I was indeed wondering about this particular MAINTAINERS entry. As it
> > doesn't cover any particular set of files, directories, drivers,
> > subsystems or architectures, what does being listed here endeavour ?
>
> Basically nothing; I was going to suggest removing it entirely. There's
> certainly no point listing me there any more.
>
> Once upon a time it involved a certain amount of heckling about memory
> usage and "your hash table doesn't need to be that large" but that ship
> sailed a long time ago :)

Heckling is still an option without a MAINTAINERS entry I suppose :-)

I wouldn't object if we were to remove it.

--
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart