2024-02-23 17:56:04

by Eric Biggers

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/15] x86: Add early SHA support for Secure Launch early measurements

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 04:42:11PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>
> Yes, and I agree.? We're not looking to try and force this in with
> underhand tactics.
>
> But a blind "nack to any SHA-1" is similarly damaging in the opposite
> direction.
>

Well, reviewers have said they'd prefer that SHA-1 not be included and given
some thoughtful reasons for that. But also they've given suggestions on how to
make the SHA-1 support more palatable, such as splitting it into a separate
patch and giving it a proper justification.

All suggestions have been ignored.

- Eric


2024-02-23 18:20:47

by Andrew Cooper

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/15] x86: Add early SHA support for Secure Launch early measurements

On 23/02/2024 5:54 pm, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 04:42:11PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> Yes, and I agree.  We're not looking to try and force this in with
>> underhand tactics.
>>
>> But a blind "nack to any SHA-1" is similarly damaging in the opposite
>> direction.
>>
> Well, reviewers have said they'd prefer that SHA-1 not be included and given
> some thoughtful reasons for that. But also they've given suggestions on how to
> make the SHA-1 support more palatable, such as splitting it into a separate
> patch and giving it a proper justification.
>
> All suggestions have been ignored.

The public record demonstrates otherwise.

But are you saying that you'd be happy if the commit message read
something more like:

---8<---
For better or worse, Secure Launch needs SHA-1 and SHA-256.

The choice of hashes used lie with the platform firmware, not with
software, and is often outside of the users control.

Even if we'd prefer to use SHA-256-only, if firmware elected to start us
with the SHA-1 and SHA-256 backs active, we still need SHA-1 to parse
the TPM event log thus far, and deliberately cap the SHA-1 PCRs in order
to safely use SHA-256 for everything else.
---

?

~Andrew

2024-02-23 18:30:57

by Eric Biggers

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/15] x86: Add early SHA support for Secure Launch early measurements

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 06:20:27PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 23/02/2024 5:54 pm, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 04:42:11PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >> Yes, and I agree.? We're not looking to try and force this in with
> >> underhand tactics.
> >>
> >> But a blind "nack to any SHA-1" is similarly damaging in the opposite
> >> direction.
> >>
> > Well, reviewers have said they'd prefer that SHA-1 not be included and given
> > some thoughtful reasons for that. But also they've given suggestions on how to
> > make the SHA-1 support more palatable, such as splitting it into a separate
> > patch and giving it a proper justification.
> >
> > All suggestions have been ignored.
>
> The public record demonstrates otherwise.
>
> But are you saying that you'd be happy if the commit message read
> something more like:
>
> ---8<---
> For better or worse, Secure Launch needs SHA-1 and SHA-256.
>
> The choice of hashes used lie with the platform firmware, not with
> software, and is often outside of the users control.
>
> Even if we'd prefer to use SHA-256-only, if firmware elected to start us
> with the SHA-1 and SHA-256 backs active, we still need SHA-1 to parse
> the TPM event log thus far, and deliberately cap the SHA-1 PCRs in order
> to safely use SHA-256 for everything else.
> ---

Please take some time to read through the comments that reviewers have left on
previous versions of the patchset.

- Eric