2007-01-31 14:55:48

by Harry Papaxenopoulos

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Subject: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

Trash-Bin Functionality for the jfs filesystem:

Signed-off-by: Harry Papaxenopoulos <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Nikolai Joukov <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Erez Zadok <[email protected]>

Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
===================================================================
--- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
+++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
#include <linux/buffer_head.h>
#include <asm/uaccess.h>
#include <linux/seq_file.h>
+#include <linux/trashbin.h>

#include "jfs_incore.h"
#include "jfs_filsys.h"
@@ -503,6 +504,11 @@ static int jfs_fill_super(struct super_b
if (sbi->mntflag & JFS_OS2)
sb->s_root->d_op = &jfs_ci_dentry_operations;

+#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
+ if ((sb->s_flags & MNT_TRASHBIN) && vfs_create_trash_bin(sb))
+ goto out_no_root;
+#endif
+
/* logical blocks are represented by 40 bits in pxd_t, etc. */
sb->s_maxbytes = ((u64) sb->s_blocksize) << 40;
#if BITS_PER_LONG == 32
Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
===================================================================
--- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
+++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
@@ -20,6 +20,8 @@
#include <linux/fs.h>
#include <linux/ctype.h>
#include <linux/quotaops.h>
+#include <linux/trashbin.h>
+#include <linux/mount.h>
#include "jfs_incore.h"
#include "jfs_superblock.h"
#include "jfs_inode.h"
@@ -474,6 +476,11 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
struct tblock *tblk;
s64 new_size = 0;
int commit_flag;
+ int trashed = 0;
+#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
+ unsigned int flags = 0;
+ struct dentry *user_dentry = NULL;
+#endif

jfs_info("jfs_unlink: dip:0x%p name:%s", dip, dentry->d_name.name);

@@ -483,6 +490,35 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
if ((rc = get_UCSname(&dname, dentry)))
goto out;

+#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
+ flags = JFS_IP(ip)->mode2 & JFS_FL_USER_VISIBLE;
+ if ((dentry->d_inode->i_sb->s_flags & MNT_TRASHBIN) && (
+ flags & (JFS_UNRM_FL | JFS_SECRM_FL))) {
+
+ /*
+ * We put this code here to optimize the common case. Since
+ * lookups are expensive, we try to reserve from making any,
+ * unless one of the trash-bin flags are set. The cleanest
+ * way though is to probably move this code outside the
+ * above if statement.
+ */
+ user_dentry = vfs_get_user_dentry(dip, 1);
+ if (IS_ERR(user_dentry)) {
+ rc = PTR_ERR(user_dentry);
+ user_dentry = NULL;
+ goto out;
+ }
+
+ if (ip->i_nlink == 1 && user_dentry->d_inode &&
+ user_dentry->d_inode->i_ino != dip->i_ino) {
+ rc = vfs_trash_entry(dip, dentry);
+ trashed = 1;
+ if (rc)
+ goto out;
+ }
+ }
+#endif
+
IWRITE_LOCK(ip);

tid = txBegin(dip->i_sb, 0);
@@ -497,7 +533,7 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
* delete the entry of target file from parent directory
*/
ino = ip->i_ino;
- if ((rc = dtDelete(tid, dip, &dname, &ino, JFS_REMOVE))) {
+ if (!trashed && (rc = dtDelete(tid, dip, &dname, &ino, JFS_REMOVE))) {
jfs_err("jfs_unlink: dtDelete returned %d", rc);
if (rc == -EIO)
txAbort(tid, 1); /* Marks FS Dirty */
@@ -514,7 +550,8 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
mark_inode_dirty(dip);

/* update target's inode */
- inode_dec_link_count(ip);
+ if (!trashed)
+ inode_dec_link_count(ip);

/*
* commit zero link count object
@@ -590,6 +627,10 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
free_UCSname(&dname);
out:
jfs_info("jfs_unlink: rc:%d", rc);
+#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
+ if (user_dentry)
+ dput(user_dentry);
+#endif
return rc;
}

Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
===================================================================
--- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
+++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
@@ -443,6 +443,15 @@ config JFS_STATISTICS
Enabling this option will cause statistics from the JFS file system
to be made available to the user in the /proc/fs/jfs/ directory.

+config JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
+ bool "JFS trashbin functionality"
+ depends on TRASHBIN
+ depends on JFS_FS
+ help
+ Trashbin functionality for the JFS filesystem
+
+ If unsure, say N.
+
config FS_POSIX_ACL
# Posix ACL utility routines (for now, only ext2/ext3/jfs/reiserfs)
#


2007-01-31 17:11:13

by Dave Kleikamp

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

Right now I've only really looked at the jfs patch, since that's what
I'm the most familiar with. I'll try to take a look at the rest of them
later.

I don't have a strong opinion for or against the function and your
design. The only potential problem I see in the approach is that
the .trash directory may conflict with some other use of the same name.
Since this is primarily vfs function, you'll probably get a wider
audience on linux-fsdevel.

Have you considered putting ALL of the function in the vfs layer? It
looks like this could be done without touching any code in the
individual file systems.

On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 09:55 -0500, Harry Papaxenopoulos wrote:
> Trash-Bin Functionality for the jfs filesystem:
>
> Signed-off-by: Harry Papaxenopoulos <[email protected]>
> Signed-off-by: Nikolai Joukov <[email protected]>
> Signed-off-by: Erez Zadok <[email protected]>
>
> Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
> ===================================================================
> --- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
> +++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c

In the future, please restructure the patches so that the linux
directory is the first component of the path. It is standard that
kernel patches can be applied from the top directory with patch -p1.

> @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
> #include <linux/buffer_head.h>
> #include <asm/uaccess.h>
> #include <linux/seq_file.h>
> +#include <linux/trashbin.h>
>
> #include "jfs_incore.h"
> #include "jfs_filsys.h"
> @@ -503,6 +504,11 @@ static int jfs_fill_super(struct super_b
> if (sbi->mntflag & JFS_OS2)
> sb->s_root->d_op = &jfs_ci_dentry_operations;
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> + if ((sb->s_flags & MNT_TRASHBIN) && vfs_create_trash_bin(sb))
> + goto out_no_root;

This error path leaks sb->s_root. I think you need to dput(sb->s_root)
here.

> +#endif
> +
> /* logical blocks are represented by 40 bits in pxd_t, etc. */
> sb->s_maxbytes = ((u64) sb->s_blocksize) << 40;
> #if BITS_PER_LONG == 32
> Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
> ===================================================================
> --- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
> +++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
> @@ -20,6 +20,8 @@
> #include <linux/fs.h>
> #include <linux/ctype.h>
> #include <linux/quotaops.h>
> +#include <linux/trashbin.h>
> +#include <linux/mount.h>
> #include "jfs_incore.h"
> #include "jfs_superblock.h"
> #include "jfs_inode.h"
> @@ -474,6 +476,11 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> struct tblock *tblk;
> s64 new_size = 0;
> int commit_flag;
> + int trashed = 0;
> +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> + unsigned int flags = 0;
> + struct dentry *user_dentry = NULL;
> +#endif
>
> jfs_info("jfs_unlink: dip:0x%p name:%s", dip, dentry->d_name.name);
>
> @@ -483,6 +490,35 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> if ((rc = get_UCSname(&dname, dentry)))
> goto out;
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> + flags = JFS_IP(ip)->mode2 & JFS_FL_USER_VISIBLE;
> + if ((dentry->d_inode->i_sb->s_flags & MNT_TRASHBIN) && (
> + flags & (JFS_UNRM_FL | JFS_SECRM_FL))) {
> +
> + /*
> + * We put this code here to optimize the common case. Since
> + * lookups are expensive, we try to reserve from making any,
> + * unless one of the trash-bin flags are set. The cleanest
> + * way though is to probably move this code outside the
> + * above if statement.
> + */
> + user_dentry = vfs_get_user_dentry(dip, 1);
> + if (IS_ERR(user_dentry)) {
> + rc = PTR_ERR(user_dentry);
> + user_dentry = NULL;
> + goto out;
> + }
> +
> + if (ip->i_nlink == 1 && user_dentry->d_inode &&
> + user_dentry->d_inode->i_ino != dip->i_ino) {
> + rc = vfs_trash_entry(dip, dentry);

can we dput(user_dentry) here rather than after out: ?

> + trashed = 1;
> + if (rc)
> + goto out;

why not unconditionally goto out here? if vfs_trash_entry() was
successful, the file was successfully moved to the trashbin directory.
There is nothing left to be done, right? Then there's no need for the
trashed flag.

In fact, the ifdef'ed code should precede the call to get_UCSname(),
since we don't need to allocate dname if we move the file to the
trashbin, and we leak the allocation if we jump to out:.

> + }
> + }
> +#endif
> +
> IWRITE_LOCK(ip);
>
> tid = txBegin(dip->i_sb, 0);
> @@ -497,7 +533,7 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> * delete the entry of target file from parent directory
> */
> ino = ip->i_ino;
> - if ((rc = dtDelete(tid, dip, &dname, &ino, JFS_REMOVE))) {
> + if (!trashed && (rc = dtDelete(tid, dip, &dname, &ino, JFS_REMOVE))) {
> jfs_err("jfs_unlink: dtDelete returned %d", rc);
> if (rc == -EIO)
> txAbort(tid, 1); /* Marks FS Dirty */
> @@ -514,7 +550,8 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> mark_inode_dirty(dip);
>
> /* update target's inode */
> - inode_dec_link_count(ip);
> + if (!trashed)
> + inode_dec_link_count(ip);
>
> /*
> * commit zero link count object
> @@ -590,6 +627,10 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> free_UCSname(&dname);
> out:
> jfs_info("jfs_unlink: rc:%d", rc);
> +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> + if (user_dentry)
> + dput(user_dentry);
> +#endif
> return rc;
> }
>
> Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
> ===================================================================
> --- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
> +++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
> @@ -443,6 +443,15 @@ config JFS_STATISTICS
> Enabling this option will cause statistics from the JFS file system
> to be made available to the user in the /proc/fs/jfs/ directory.
>
> +config JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> + bool "JFS trashbin functionality"
> + depends on TRASHBIN
> + depends on JFS_FS
> + help
> + Trashbin functionality for the JFS filesystem
> +
> + If unsure, say N.
> +
> config FS_POSIX_ACL
> # Posix ACL utility routines (for now, only ext2/ext3/jfs/reiserfs)
> #

What about the rename() path? A file can be unlinked by mv'ing a file
over another.
--
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center

2007-02-01 11:06:55

by Harry Papaxenopoulos

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4



On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Dave Kleikamp wrote:

> Right now I've only really looked at the jfs patch, since that's what
> I'm the most familiar with. I'll try to take a look at the rest of them
> later.
>
> I don't have a strong opinion for or against the function and your
> design. The only potential problem I see in the approach is that
> the .trash directory may conflict with some other use of the same name.
> Since this is primarily vfs function, you'll probably get a wider
> audience on linux-fsdevel.
>
> Have you considered putting ALL of the function in the vfs layer? It
> looks like this could be done without touching any code in the
> individual file systems.
>

Yes now that you mention it we probably could. The initial idea was to add
this functionality only for Ext4. Only after a suggestion did we move most
of the code to the VFS and have hooks to it through the underlying
file-systems. Nevertheless it probably could be completely moved to the VFS.

> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 09:55 -0500, Harry Papaxenopoulos wrote:
> > Trash-Bin Functionality for the jfs filesystem:
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Harry Papaxenopoulos <[email protected]>
> > Signed-off-by: Nikolai Joukov <[email protected]>
> > Signed-off-by: Erez Zadok <[email protected]>
> >
> > Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
> > +++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/super.c
>
> In the future, please restructure the patches so that the linux
> directory is the first component of the path. It is standard that
> kernel patches can be applied from the top directory with patch -p1.
>

Ok noted. Sorry.

> > @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
> > #include <linux/buffer_head.h>
> > #include <asm/uaccess.h>
> > #include <linux/seq_file.h>
> > +#include <linux/trashbin.h>
> >
> > #include "jfs_incore.h"
> > #include "jfs_filsys.h"
> > @@ -503,6 +504,11 @@ static int jfs_fill_super(struct super_b
> > if (sbi->mntflag & JFS_OS2)
> > sb->s_root->d_op = &jfs_ci_dentry_operations;
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> > + if ((sb->s_flags & MNT_TRASHBIN) && vfs_create_trash_bin(sb))
> > + goto out_no_root;
>
> This error path leaks sb->s_root. I think you need to dput(sb->s_root)
> here.

Yes you're right. Will change.

>
> > +#endif
> > +
> > /* logical blocks are represented by 40 bits in pxd_t, etc. */
> > sb->s_maxbytes = ((u64) sb->s_blocksize) << 40;
> > #if BITS_PER_LONG == 32
> > Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
> > +++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/jfs/namei.c
> > @@ -20,6 +20,8 @@
> > #include <linux/fs.h>
> > #include <linux/ctype.h>
> > #include <linux/quotaops.h>
> > +#include <linux/trashbin.h>
> > +#include <linux/mount.h>
> > #include "jfs_incore.h"
> > #include "jfs_superblock.h"
> > #include "jfs_inode.h"
> > @@ -474,6 +476,11 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> > struct tblock *tblk;
> > s64 new_size = 0;
> > int commit_flag;
> > + int trashed = 0;
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> > + unsigned int flags = 0;
> > + struct dentry *user_dentry = NULL;
> > +#endif
> >
> > jfs_info("jfs_unlink: dip:0x%p name:%s", dip, dentry->d_name.name);
> >
> > @@ -483,6 +490,35 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> > if ((rc = get_UCSname(&dname, dentry)))
> > goto out;
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> > + flags = JFS_IP(ip)->mode2 & JFS_FL_USER_VISIBLE;
> > + if ((dentry->d_inode->i_sb->s_flags & MNT_TRASHBIN) && (
> > + flags & (JFS_UNRM_FL | JFS_SECRM_FL))) {
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * We put this code here to optimize the common case. Since
> > + * lookups are expensive, we try to reserve from making any,
> > + * unless one of the trash-bin flags are set. The cleanest
> > + * way though is to probably move this code outside the
> > + * above if statement.
> > + */
> > + user_dentry = vfs_get_user_dentry(dip, 1);
> > + if (IS_ERR(user_dentry)) {
> > + rc = PTR_ERR(user_dentry);
> > + user_dentry = NULL;
> > + goto out;
> > + }
> > +
> > + if (ip->i_nlink == 1 && user_dentry->d_inode &&
> > + user_dentry->d_inode->i_ino != dip->i_ino) {
> > + rc = vfs_trash_entry(dip, dentry);
>
> can we dput(user_dentry) here rather than after out: ?
>
> > + trashed = 1;
> > + if (rc)
> > + goto out;
>
> why not unconditionally goto out here? if vfs_trash_entry() was
> successful, the file was successfully moved to the trashbin directory.
> There is nothing left to be done, right? Then there's no need for the
> trashed flag.
>
> In fact, the ifdef'ed code should precede the call to get_UCSname(),
> since we don't need to allocate dname if we move the file to the
> trashbin, and we leak the allocation if we jump to out:.
>

Well the main reason I don't jump to out is to update the inode's
change time, otherwise I would have unconditionally jumped.

You're right, I used the incorrect label to jump. Should have been "out1"
instead of "out" so the allocation is freed. Sorry about that.

> > + }
> > + }
> > +#endif
> > +
> > IWRITE_LOCK(ip);
> >
> > tid = txBegin(dip->i_sb, 0);
> > @@ -497,7 +533,7 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> > * delete the entry of target file from parent directory
> > */
> > ino = ip->i_ino;
> > - if ((rc = dtDelete(tid, dip, &dname, &ino, JFS_REMOVE))) {
> > + if (!trashed && (rc = dtDelete(tid, dip, &dname, &ino, JFS_REMOVE))) {
> > jfs_err("jfs_unlink: dtDelete returned %d", rc);
> > if (rc == -EIO)
> > txAbort(tid, 1); /* Marks FS Dirty */
> > @@ -514,7 +550,8 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> > mark_inode_dirty(dip);
> >
> > /* update target's inode */
> > - inode_dec_link_count(ip);
> > + if (!trashed)
> > + inode_dec_link_count(ip);
> >
> > /*
> > * commit zero link count object
> > @@ -590,6 +627,10 @@ static int jfs_unlink(struct inode *dip,
> > free_UCSname(&dname);
> > out:
> > jfs_info("jfs_unlink: rc:%d", rc);
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> > + if (user_dentry)
> > + dput(user_dentry);
> > +#endif
> > return rc;
> > }
> >
> > Index: sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
> > ===================================================================
> > --- sdfs.orig/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
> > +++ sdfs/src/linux-2.6.20-rc6-trashbin/fs/Kconfig
> > @@ -443,6 +443,15 @@ config JFS_STATISTICS
> > Enabling this option will cause statistics from the JFS file system
> > to be made available to the user in the /proc/fs/jfs/ directory.
> >
> > +config JFS_FS_TRASHBIN
> > + bool "JFS trashbin functionality"
> > + depends on TRASHBIN
> > + depends on JFS_FS
> > + help
> > + Trashbin functionality for the JFS filesystem
> > +
> > + If unsure, say N.
> > +
> > config FS_POSIX_ACL
> > # Posix ACL utility routines (for now, only ext2/ext3/jfs/reiserfs)
> > #
>
> What about the rename() path? A file can be unlinked by mv'ing a file
> over another.

Good point. Will definitely add it.

> --
> David Kleikamp
> IBM Linux Technology Center
>
>

2007-02-01 13:20:02

by Dave Kleikamp

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 06:05 -0500, Harry Papaxenopoulos wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Dave Kleikamp wrote:

> > why not unconditionally goto out here? if vfs_trash_entry() was
> > successful, the file was successfully moved to the trashbin directory.
> > There is nothing left to be done, right? Then there's no need for the
> > trashed flag.
> >
> > In fact, the ifdef'ed code should precede the call to get_UCSname(),
> > since we don't need to allocate dname if we move the file to the
> > trashbin, and we leak the allocation if we jump to out:.
> >
>
> Well the main reason I don't jump to out is to update the inode's
> change time, otherwise I would have unconditionally jumped.

the rename already updates the change time.
>
> You're right, I used the incorrect label to jump. Should have been "out1"
> instead of "out" so the allocation is freed. Sorry about that.

I'd rather do the allocation after the new code anyway. It's not needed
at all if we're moving the file to the trashbin.

Thanks,
Shaggy
--
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center

2007-02-01 17:21:54

by Nikolai Joukov

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

> Right now I've only really looked at the jfs patch, since that's what
> I'm the most familiar with. I'll try to take a look at the rest of them
> later.

Thank you!

> I don't have a strong opinion for or against the function and your
> design. The only potential problem I see in the approach is that
> the .trash directory may conflict with some other use of the same name.
> Since this is primarily vfs function, you'll probably get a wider
> audience on linux-fsdevel.

Well, I guess lost+found has the same problem but it is not a problem at
all to pick some other (longer) name.

> Have you considered putting ALL of the function in the vfs layer? It
> looks like this could be done without touching any code in the
> individual file systems.

Unfortunately, we need some file system-specific code to access per-file
secure deletion and per-file trash bit attributes. These attributes are
supported only by some file systems and in different ways. We need no
file system-specific code to support trash-bin deletion for whole file
systems.

Nikolai.

2007-02-01 19:32:23

by Dave Kleikamp

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:17 -0500, Nikolai Joukov wrote:

> > I don't have a strong opinion for or against the function and your
> > design. The only potential problem I see in the approach is that
> > the .trash directory may conflict with some other use of the same name.
> > Since this is primarily vfs function, you'll probably get a wider
> > audience on linux-fsdevel.
>
> Well, I guess lost+found has the same problem but it is not a problem at
> all to pick some other (longer) name.

Right, I didn't see it as a show-stopper, just something to consider.
>
> > Have you considered putting ALL of the function in the vfs layer? It
> > looks like this could be done without touching any code in the
> > individual file systems.
>
> Unfortunately, we need some file system-specific code to access per-file
> secure deletion and per-file trash bit attributes. These attributes are
> supported only by some file systems and in different ways.

Yeah, I did see that. I wonder adding some inode or file operation just
to query the existence of those attributes (or something more generic)
would be too ugly.

> We need no
> file system-specific code to support trash-bin deletion for whole file
> systems.
>
> Nikolai.
--
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center

2007-02-01 20:41:33

by Mingming Cao

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 19:32 +0000, Dave Kleikamp wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:17 -0500, Nikolai Joukov wrote:
>
> > > I don't have a strong opinion for or against the function and your
> > > design. The only potential problem I see in the approach is that
> > > the .trash directory may conflict with some other use of the same name.
> > > Since this is primarily vfs function, you'll probably get a wider
> > > audience on linux-fsdevel.
> >
> > Well, I guess lost+found has the same problem but it is not a problem at
> > all to pick some other (longer) name.
>
> Right, I didn't see it as a show-stopper, just something to consider.
> >
> > > Have you considered putting ALL of the function in the vfs layer? It
> > > looks like this could be done without touching any code in the
> > > individual file systems.
> >
> > Unfortunately, we need some file system-specific code to access per-file
> > secure deletion and per-file trash bit attributes. These attributes are
> > supported only by some file systems and in different ways.
>

The check for fs specific attributes has to be underlying fs code. But
the code the handling the secure delete and trash bin (although now is
only two functions being called) are identical for all fs, could be move
to VFS layer.

> Yeah, I did see that. I wonder adding some inode or file operation just
> to query the existence of those attributes (or something more generic)
> would be too ugly.
>

I gave a brief thought on that yesterday, it was not very pretty:)


Thanks,
Mingming

2007-02-02 01:40:04

by Andreas Dilger

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

On Feb 01, 2007 12:41 -0800, Mingming Cao wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 19:32 +0000, Dave Kleikamp wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, we need some file system-specific code to access per-file
> > > secure deletion and per-file trash bit attributes. These attributes are
> > > supported only by some file systems and in different ways.
>
> The check for fs specific attributes has to be underlying fs code. But
> the code the handling the secure delete and trash bin (although now is
> only two functions being called) are identical for all fs, could be move
> to VFS layer.
>
> > Yeah, I did see that. I wonder adding some inode or file operation just
> > to query the existence of those attributes (or something more generic)
> > would be too ugly.
>
> I gave a brief thought on that yesterday, it was not very pretty:)

Actually, the major filesystems (ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs) all use the
same lsattr/chattr ioctl as ext2 (EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS). Maybe this code
can just do an ioctl inside the kernel?

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Principal Software Engineer
Cluster File Systems, Inc.

2007-02-02 02:22:34

by Dave Kleikamp

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 18:40 -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Feb 01, 2007 12:41 -0800, Mingming Cao wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 19:32 +0000, Dave Kleikamp wrote:
> > > Yeah, I did see that. I wonder adding some inode or file operation just
> > > to query the existence of those attributes (or something more generic)
> > > would be too ugly.
> >
> > I gave a brief thought on that yesterday, it was not very pretty:)
>
> Actually, the major filesystems (ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs) all use the
> same lsattr/chattr ioctl as ext2 (EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS). Maybe this code
> can just do an ioctl inside the kernel?

Al Viro will love that one. :-)

Another idea might be to store those attribute flags in the generic
inode.

Shaggy
--
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center

2007-02-06 05:54:55

by Theodore Ts'o

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:22:28PM -0600, Dave Kleikamp wrote:
> Al Viro will love that one. :-)
>
> Another idea might be to store those attribute flags in the generic
> inode.

Yeah, that's really the right answer. Having a common way of storing
attributes in struct kstat (and notified via struct iattr and
notify_change) is the right way for us to store some of these
filesystem-common flags, and would make a huge amount of sense.

I don't really view ths secure deletion and trash-bin support as
really being an ext4 feature, but really a generic feature which can
enhance multiple filesystems *including* ext4. So it would be really
good idea to give these patches an airing on linux-fsdevel and
linux-kernel.

Regards,

- Ted

2007-02-25 10:34:16

by Andrew Morton

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Subject: Re: [Resubmit][PATCH 5/5] Secure Deletion and Trash-Bin Support for Ext4

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:11:10 -0600 Dave Kleikamp <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have you considered putting ALL of the function in the vfs layer?

Yes, I think that's where it should be implemented.

I suspect we'll run into problems with the .trash/<uid> thing. What directory
do we put .trash in? The top-level of the mountpoint? The user might not
be able to access that if he's in a chroot. And UIDs are now per-nsproxy
things - UIDs are already per-uid-namespace things. So we can have two or more
different users using UID 42.

It all need to be thrashed out with the containerisation and VFS guys.