> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:44:53 -0800 (PST)
> From: Alan Powell <>
> Subject: Re: [NFS] nfsd tuning - please help me!
> To: Steve Dickson <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>=20
> Unfortunately, we've tried all that already. So given
> that we are not hardware/network constrained, does all
> this mean that the Linux kernel NFS runs into
> performance issues beyond 100 file reads/sec?
>=20
>=20
I have been able to get closer to 10-20MBytes per second with
linux nfs. The netapps will do around 4-5 times that though at
a higher cost. And you can get it out of linux, by putting more
cheap smaller servers to obtain the same rate.
What are you underlying disks? You could still be hardware
constrained depending on what your underlying disks are,
and what you underlying disk controller is. Both can have
issues.
I have machines that are servicing around 2500 8k reads
per second and seem to work fine, though mine may break
down to fewer larger reads.
Other things that will get you in trouble is having lots of files
in a single directory (in the several thousand range will hurt
pretty bad), also check to make sure you aren't accumulating lots
of .nfs* files in the directies in question, I had a situation where
there where lots of files being messed with (read and write) and
lots of these files accumulated and pretty much brought
performance to its knees. The solution was to run a cron job
to clean up the .nfs* files. The .nfs files are created when you
are reading a file that is being deleted by another process at
the same time, the .nfs* stays around to service the reader,
and does not always go away (this is on all NFS implementations
I have seen).
Do a ls -ld dirname and see the size of the directories, and include it
in the next message if one of the above don't pan out.
Roger
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This is slightly OT, but worth noting.
Heflin, Roger A. wrote:
> I have been able to get closer to 10-20MBytes per second with
> linux nfs. The netapps will do around 4-5 times that though at
> a higher cost. And you can get it out of linux, by putting more
> cheap smaller servers to obtain the same rate.
15 - 20 times that; my netapp 960's sustain 280 - 330 Mbytes/sec of read traffic
when feeding the renderfarm. That's one of the many reasons we're using NetApp
and not Linux NFS servers, in an otherwise all-linux shop.
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Yes indeed, the problem is probably that I have too
many files in each directory. Recommended # of
files/directory is a different topic, so I'll start a
new thread for that. Thanks!
(by the way, I did follow each and every suggestion in
the NFS Tuning How-To)
--- "Heflin, Roger A."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:44:53 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Alan Powell <>
> > Subject: Re: [NFS] nfsd tuning - please help me!
> > To: Steve Dickson <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]
> >
> > Unfortunately, we've tried all that already. So
> given
> > that we are not hardware/network constrained, does
> all
> > this mean that the Linux kernel NFS runs into
> > performance issues beyond 100 file reads/sec?
> >
> >
> I have been able to get closer to 10-20MBytes per
> second with
> linux nfs. The netapps will do around 4-5 times
> that though at
> a higher cost. And you can get it out of linux, by
> putting more
> cheap smaller servers to obtain the same rate.
>
> What are you underlying disks? You could still be
> hardware
> constrained depending on what your underlying disks
> are,
> and what you underlying disk controller is. Both
> can have
> issues.
>
> I have machines that are servicing around 2500 8k
> reads
> per second and seem to work fine, though mine may
> break
> down to fewer larger reads.
>
> Other things that will get you in trouble is having
> lots of files
> in a single directory (in the several thousand
> range will hurt
> pretty bad), also check to make sure you aren't
> accumulating lots
> of .nfs* files in the directies in question, I had
> a situation where
> there where lots of files being messed with (read
> and write) and
> lots of these files accumulated and pretty much
> brought
> performance to its knees. The solution was to run
> a cron job
> to clean up the .nfs* files. The .nfs files are
> created when you
> are reading a file that is being deleted by another
> process at
> the same time, the .nfs* stays around to service
> the reader,
> and does not always go away (this is on all NFS
> implementations
> I have seen).
>
> Do a ls -ld dirname and see the size of the
> directories, and include it
> in the next message if one of the above don't pan
> out.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
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