2009-07-24 07:39:29

by Jon Fairbairn

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

Pavel Roskin <[email protected]> writes:

> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 18:01 +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
>> The distro I'm using (fedora 11) has 2.6.29 -- will the relevant modules
>> build for that, or would I have to build a whole 2.6.31?
>
> You can build compat-wireless, which includes the latest ath5k driver
> backported from the wireless-testing kernel. Alternatively, you can
> build madwifi (be sure to use the trunk snapshot).

OK! I bought one and with compat-wireless-2009-07-20 + hostapd 0.6.9 it
seems to work. I haven't done much testing yet, but I can certainly
connect to it from an eee pc 901 and from a Macbook Air (and from my IBM
X30 so long as I don't use WPA).

For reference: The box says "abit airpace wifi", "pci-e wi-fi card",
"WLP01WCG121095 V0.0B" (on a sticker; this is the only place on the
outside of the box that mentions WPL01), "EAN 4 710933 354359", "UPC 8
43323 00028 5"

lspci -nn says
04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x
802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01)

Does that want to go on the wiki? (I can't access it right now:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices * Connection to 83.246.72.84
Failed )

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Jón Fairbairn [email protected]




2009-07-24 16:04:03

by Pavel Roskin

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:59 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 11:52 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:29 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> >
> > > > From the
> > > > users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
> > > > be listed separately.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure. The ID spaces are the same really, and users really don't
> > > distinguish that much, for them PCI-E is just the new PCI technology
> > > with a different form factor. Kinda like mini-pci vs. pci.
> >
> > We can have "form factors": PCI, CardBus, MiniPCI, PCIe and PCI
> > ExpressCard.
>
> I've done that and adjusted a few of the b43 entries, go check it out :)

Thanks! I'll update what I know.

--
Regards,
Pavel Roskin

2009-07-24 15:29:34

by Johannes Berg

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

[ah, sorry about the private mail, only saw this now]

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 11:23 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote:

> I tried to add a link for PCI Express devices, but I don't have
> permissions to reorganize the Wiki to have a separate table.

It needs some extra code.

> From the
> users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
> be listed separately.

I'm not sure. The ID spaces are the same really, and users really don't
distinguish that much, for them PCI-E is just the new PCI technology
with a different form factor. Kinda like mini-pci vs. pci.

johannes


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2009-07-24 16:07:17

by Larry Finger

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

Pavel Roskin wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:29 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
>
>>> From the
>>> users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
>>> be listed separately.
>> I'm not sure. The ID spaces are the same really, and users really don't
>> distinguish that much, for them PCI-E is just the new PCI technology
>> with a different form factor. Kinda like mini-pci vs. pci.
>
> We can have "form factors": PCI, CardBus, MiniPCI, PCIe and PCI
> ExpressCard.

I endorse the "form factor" idea; however, I think you also need a
mini-PCIe category. BTW, I prefer mini-PCI to MiniPCI.

Larry

2009-07-24 15:52:15

by Pavel Roskin

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:29 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:

> > From the
> > users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
> > be listed separately.
>
> I'm not sure. The ID spaces are the same really, and users really don't
> distinguish that much, for them PCI-E is just the new PCI technology
> with a different form factor. Kinda like mini-pci vs. pci.

We can have "form factors": PCI, CardBus, MiniPCI, PCIe and PCI
ExpressCard.

--
Regards,
Pavel Roskin

2009-07-24 16:00:01

by Johannes Berg

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 11:52 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:29 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
>
> > > From the
> > > users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
> > > be listed separately.
> >
> > I'm not sure. The ID spaces are the same really, and users really don't
> > distinguish that much, for them PCI-E is just the new PCI technology
> > with a different form factor. Kinda like mini-pci vs. pci.
>
> We can have "form factors": PCI, CardBus, MiniPCI, PCIe and PCI
> ExpressCard.

I've done that and adjusted a few of the b43 entries, go check it out :)

johannes


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2009-07-24 15:23:51

by Pavel Roskin

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 08:39 +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote:

> lspci -nn says
> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x
> 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01)

Great!

> Does that want to go on the wiki? (I can't access it right now:
> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices * Connection to 83.246.72.84
> Failed )

Yes, it was down, but now it's working. I've added your device:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/PCI

I assume the subvendor/subsystem ID is 147b:1033, as reported elsewhere
and as "lspci -vnn" would show.

I tried to add a link for PCI Express devices, but I don't have
permissions to reorganize the Wiki to have a separate table. From the
users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
be listed separately.

--
Regards,
Pavel Roskin

2009-07-24 16:09:20

by Johannes Berg

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 12:04 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:59 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 11:52 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:29 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > >
> > > > > From the
> > > > > users' perspective, PCI and PCI Express are different busses and should
> > > > > be listed separately.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure. The ID spaces are the same really, and users really don't
> > > > distinguish that much, for them PCI-E is just the new PCI technology
> > > > with a different form factor. Kinda like mini-pci vs. pci.
> > >
> > > We can have "form factors": PCI, CardBus, MiniPCI, PCIe and PCI
> > > ExpressCard.
> >
> > I've done that and adjusted a few of the b43 entries, go check it out :)
>
> Thanks! I'll update what I know.

I also added a short overview over the form factors on the page:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/PCI.

FWIW, I've spelt it "Mini-PCI", and it would be good for the filter if
we used a consistent spelling.

johannes


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