2011-05-25 16:13:41

by Stevie Trujillo

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Subject: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

Hello,

I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15 and I
was wondering if the card could do more than that.

Thank you


2011-05-25 19:46:01

by Wey-Yi Guy

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15 and I
> was wondering if the card could do more than that.
>
the card should not and will not do more than what required by
regulatory

Thanks
Wey



2011-05-26 06:22:22

by Stevie Trujillo

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On Thursday 26 May 2011 04:28:58 wwguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is
> > > > 15 and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
> > >
> > > the card should not and will not do more than what required by
> > > regulatory
> >
> > I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card
> > do that.
>
> the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
> are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?

Norway

Thanks
Stevie

2011-05-26 14:15:11

by Wey-Yi Guy

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 01:50 -0700, Richard Schütz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
> >>>> and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
> >>>
> >>> the card should not and will not do more than what required by
> >>> regulatory
> >>
> >> I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
> >> that.
> >>
> > the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
> > are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Wey
>
> I am also having the same issue with my Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN.
> Here in Germany I'm allowed to use 20 dBm (in the 2.4 GHz band), but the
> card is limited to 15 dBm. So in some situations other cards are working
> fine (as they use 20 dBm) and the Intel can't establish a connection.
>
We do not have different SKUs for different regions of the world. Now I
understand your problem. Thank you very much for reporting. I will raise
the issue and see how we should fix it.

Sorry, I don't have a solution for you today. But it is very important
for us and we need to result it.

Thanks
Wey


2011-05-25 19:54:10

by Stevie Trujillo

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
> > and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
>
> the card should not and will not do more than what required by
> regulatory

I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
that.

Thanks
Stevie

2011-05-26 08:50:42

by Richard Schütz

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
>> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
>>>> and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
>>>
>>> the card should not and will not do more than what required by
>>> regulatory
>>
>> I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
>> that.
>>
> the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
> are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?
>
> Thanks
> Wey

I am also having the same issue with my Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN.
Here in Germany I'm allowed to use 20 dBm (in the 2.4 GHz band), but the
card is limited to 15 dBm. So in some situations other cards are working
fine (as they use 20 dBm) and the Intel can't establish a connection.

--
Regards,
Richard Schütz

2011-05-26 02:32:20

by Wey-Yi Guy

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
> > > and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
> >
> > the card should not and will not do more than what required by
> > regulatory
>
> I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
> that.
>
the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?

Thanks
Wey



2011-06-10 18:24:59

by Richard Schütz

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

Am 10.06.2011 19:31, schrieb Guy, Wey-Yi:
> On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 09:31 -0700, Richard Schütz wrote:
>> On 26.05.2011 16:11, wwguy wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 01:50 -0700, Richard Schütz wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
>>>>>>>> and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the card should not and will not do more than what required by
>>>>>>> regulatory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
>>>>> are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Wey
>>>>
>>>> I am also having the same issue with my Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN.
>>>> Here in Germany I'm allowed to use 20 dBm (in the 2.4 GHz band), but the
>>>> card is limited to 15 dBm. So in some situations other cards are working
>>>> fine (as they use 20 dBm) and the Intel can't establish a connection.
>>>>
>>> We do not have different SKUs for different regions of the world. Now I
>>> understand your problem. Thank you very much for reporting. I will raise
>>> the issue and see how we should fix it.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I don't have a solution for you today. But it is very important
>>> for us and we need to result it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Wey
>>
>> Is there any news?
>>
> Hi, I talk to the marketing and since we are providing single SKU
> solution, the maximum allowed tx power is programmed in EEPROM, so
> currently there is no method to allow use the higher limitation.
>
> Thanks
> Wey

According to [1] there are no countries that forbid tx power values
lower than 20dBm in the 2.4 GHz band. The lowest value for the 5 GHz
band listed is 17 dBm. So why are the Intel cards limited to 15dBm then
for both bands? This value absolutely makes no sense in my view.

[1]
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-regdb.git;a=blob;f=db.txt;hb=HEAD

--
Regards,
Richard Schütz

2011-06-10 16:31:21

by Richard Schütz

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On 26.05.2011 16:11, wwguy wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 01:50 -0700, Richard Schütz wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
>>>>>> and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> the card should not and will not do more than what required by
>>>>> regulatory
>>>>
>>>> I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>> the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
>>> are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Wey
>>
>> I am also having the same issue with my Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN.
>> Here in Germany I'm allowed to use 20 dBm (in the 2.4 GHz band), but the
>> card is limited to 15 dBm. So in some situations other cards are working
>> fine (as they use 20 dBm) and the Intel can't establish a connection.
>>
> We do not have different SKUs for different regions of the world. Now I
> understand your problem. Thank you very much for reporting. I will raise
> the issue and see how we should fix it.
>
> Sorry, I don't have a solution for you today. But it is very important
> for us and we need to result it.
>
> Thanks
> Wey

Is there any news?

--
Regards,
Richard Schütz

2011-06-10 18:01:07

by Wey-Yi Guy

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Subject: Re: iwlagn: is tx_power_device_lmt a regulatory limit or a hardware limit?

On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 09:31 -0700, Richard Schütz wrote:
> On 26.05.2011 16:11, wwguy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 01:50 -0700, Richard Schütz wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:54 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:42:40 wwguy wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 09:13 -0700, Stevie Trujillo wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a "Intel(R) Centrino(R) 1030 BGN" card. tx_power_device_lmt is 15
> >>>>>> and I was wondering if the card could do more than that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the card should not and will not do more than what required by
> >>>>> regulatory
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm allowed to do 20dBm here and was wondering if I could make the card do
> >>>> that.
> >>>>
> >>> the tx power in Intel WiFi device is regulated by uCode to make sure we
> >>> are within regulatory limits. What country you are in?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Wey
> >>
> >> I am also having the same issue with my Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN.
> >> Here in Germany I'm allowed to use 20 dBm (in the 2.4 GHz band), but the
> >> card is limited to 15 dBm. So in some situations other cards are working
> >> fine (as they use 20 dBm) and the Intel can't establish a connection.
> >>
> > We do not have different SKUs for different regions of the world. Now I
> > understand your problem. Thank you very much for reporting. I will raise
> > the issue and see how we should fix it.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't have a solution for you today. But it is very important
> > for us and we need to result it.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Wey
>
> Is there any news?
>
Hi, I talk to the marketing and since we are providing single SKU
solution, the maximum allowed tx power is programmed in EEPROM, so
currently there is no method to allow use the higher limitation.

Thanks
Wey