2019-04-08 12:48:34

by Seth Forshee

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Subject: Re: wireless-regdb: Please update regulatory rules for Japan (JP) on 60GHz

On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 06:07:44PM +0800, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Forsheee,
> The 60GHz band defined for Japan was between 59-66GHz, but is has been Updated to support 57-66Ghz about 2 years ago。
> However, the latest wireless-regdb still containning the original regulatory information as below. Please help to check the infomation
> and update the regulatory.bin.
>
> db.txt:
> ......
> country JP: DFS-JP
> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> (2474 - 2494 @ 20), (20), NO-OFDM
> (4910 - 4990 @ 40), (23)
> (5030 - 5090 @ 40), (23)
> (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
> (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
> (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (23), DFS
> # 60 GHz band channels 2-4 at 10mW,
> # ref: http://www.arib.or.jp/english/html/overview/doc/1-STD-T74v1_1.pdf

The only change which is required to change:

> (59000 - 66000 @ 2160), (10 mW)

to:

(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (10 mW)

Is that right? Can you provide a link to the documentation which
supports this change? The current link above this rule appears to be
broken.

Thanks,
Seth


2019-04-25 23:04:38

by bkil

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Subject: Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Please update regulatory rules for Japan (JP) on 60GHz

P.S.: last link should have been
https://www.tuv.com/content-media-files/japan/pdfs/1190-telecom-and-radio-for-japan/1190-letter/60ghz2_1_19_4_2_1.pdf

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 12:00 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This seems to be the page for the previous standard:
> https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/telecommunications/std-t74.html
>
> And the following should be the new standard, but I don't know where
> to obtain it:
> https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/telecommunications/std-t117.html
>
> The description fields here do note the range of 57-66GHz, though:
> https://www.arib.or.jp/kikaku/kikaku_tushin/desc/std-t117.html
> https://webstore.arib.or.jp/en/products/detail.php?product_id=288
>
> Similar mentions in the news (search for T117):
> https://www.arib.or.jp/image/osirase/news/1044.pdf
> https://www.arib.or.jp/image/iinkai/kikaku-kaigi/rireki/101.pdf
>
> Testing procedure is described here, not sure if it's considered useful:
> file:///home/bkil/chrome.root/Downloads/60ghz2_1_19_4_2_1.pdf
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM seth.forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 06:07:44PM +0800, [email protected] wrote:
> > > Hi Forsheee,
> > > The 60GHz band defined for Japan was between 59-66GHz, but is has been Updated to support 57-66Ghz about 2 years ago。
> > > However, the latest wireless-regdb still containning the original regulatory information as below. Please help to check the infomation
> > > and update the regulatory.bin.
> > >
> > > db.txt:
> > > ......
> > > country JP: DFS-JP
> > > (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> > > (2474 - 2494 @ 20), (20), NO-OFDM
> > > (4910 - 4990 @ 40), (23)
> > > (5030 - 5090 @ 40), (23)
> > > (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
> > > (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
> > > (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (23), DFS
> > > # 60 GHz band channels 2-4 at 10mW,
> > > # ref: http://www.arib.or.jp/english/html/overview/doc/1-STD-T74v1_1.pdf
> >
> > The only change which is required to change:
> >
> > > (59000 - 66000 @ 2160), (10 mW)
> >
> > to:
> >
> > (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (10 mW)
> >
> > Is that right? Can you provide a link to the documentation which
> > supports this change? The current link above this rule appears to be
> > broken.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Seth
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > wireless-regdb mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb

2019-04-25 23:06:45

by bkil

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Subject: Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Please update regulatory rules for Japan (JP) on 60GHz

This seems to be the page for the previous standard:
https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/telecommunications/std-t74.html

And the following should be the new standard, but I don't know where
to obtain it:
https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/telecommunications/std-t117.html

The description fields here do note the range of 57-66GHz, though:
https://www.arib.or.jp/kikaku/kikaku_tushin/desc/std-t117.html
https://webstore.arib.or.jp/en/products/detail.php?product_id=288

Similar mentions in the news (search for T117):
https://www.arib.or.jp/image/osirase/news/1044.pdf
https://www.arib.or.jp/image/iinkai/kikaku-kaigi/rireki/101.pdf

Testing procedure is described here, not sure if it's considered useful:
file:///home/bkil/chrome.root/Downloads/60ghz2_1_19_4_2_1.pdf

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM seth.forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 06:07:44PM +0800, [email protected] wrote:
> > Hi Forsheee,
> > The 60GHz band defined for Japan was between 59-66GHz, but is has been Updated to support 57-66Ghz about 2 years ago。
> > However, the latest wireless-regdb still containning the original regulatory information as below. Please help to check the infomation
> > and update the regulatory.bin.
> >
> > db.txt:
> > ......
> > country JP: DFS-JP
> > (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> > (2474 - 2494 @ 20), (20), NO-OFDM
> > (4910 - 4990 @ 40), (23)
> > (5030 - 5090 @ 40), (23)
> > (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
> > (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
> > (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (23), DFS
> > # 60 GHz band channels 2-4 at 10mW,
> > # ref: http://www.arib.or.jp/english/html/overview/doc/1-STD-T74v1_1.pdf
>
> The only change which is required to change:
>
> > (59000 - 66000 @ 2160), (10 mW)
>
> to:
>
> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (10 mW)
>
> Is that right? Can you provide a link to the documentation which
> supports this change? The current link above this rule appears to be
> broken.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth
>
> _______________________________________________
> wireless-regdb mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb

2019-05-15 13:16:22

by Seth Forshee

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Subject: Re: [wireless-regdb] wireless-regdb: Please update regulatory rules for Japan (JP) on 60GHz

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 12:00:22AM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> This seems to be the page for the previous standard:
> https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/telecommunications/std-t74.html
>
> And the following should be the new standard, but I don't know where
> to obtain it:
> https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/telecommunications/std-t117.html
>
> The description fields here do note the range of 57-66GHz, though:
> https://www.arib.or.jp/kikaku/kikaku_tushin/desc/std-t117.html
> https://webstore.arib.or.jp/en/products/detail.php?product_id=288
>
> Similar mentions in the news (search for T117):
> https://www.arib.or.jp/image/osirase/news/1044.pdf
> https://www.arib.or.jp/image/iinkai/kikaku-kaigi/rireki/101.pdf
>
> Testing procedure is described here, not sure if it's considered useful:
> file:///home/bkil/chrome.root/Downloads/60ghz2_1_19_4_2_1.pdf

Thanks. Judging by these and numerous other third-party resources I've
found, I think it's safe to say that the range was expanded back to 57
GHz quite some time ago. I'll send a patch to update this range.

Seth