2017-05-27 21:49:58

by Ben Greear

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Per chain RSSI reporting

On 05/27/2017 02:41 PM, Norik Dzhandzhapanyan wrote:
> Yes ~6dB

If a packet is sent on 1 chain with ath10k firmware (9880 hardware, specifically, but probably
others as well), it will be around 6db higher on that particular chain
than if the rate-control sends it on all three chains.

Are you measuring on a single chain, or on all of the chains at once and adding
the power?

I think we would need more detailed reporting using a good third-party device before
smoothing and RSSI.

Thanks,
Ben

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> From: Ben Greear
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Per chain RSSI reporting
> To: Norik Dzhandzhapanyan, Adrian Chadd
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
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> On 05/27/2017 12:25 PM, Norik Dzhandzhapanyan wrote: > We see this inconsistent/incorrect reporting in our RF chamber. How different are the values, and did you sniff with a third-party device to see if it sees the same spikes in RSSI? Thanks, Ben > > Norik > > On 05/27/2017 09:39 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> On 27 May 2017 at 09:07, Ben Greear wrote: >>> At low encoding rates, especially if it switches to a single-chain encoding, >>> maybe the on-air signal really is stronger? >>> >>> Have you verified in some other manner than the signals reported by ath10k >>> are >>> wrong? >> Hiya, >> >> So yeah, multipath, higher TX rates == weaker TX signal, TPC, etc are >> all interesting to know about at the receiver. it's hard to separate >> that out from the noise sometimes, but in some controlled deployments >> its really obvious. >> >> >> >> -adrian >> >> > > > The contents of this transmission are Ethertronics Inc. Confidential and may contain proprietary or legally privileged
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2017-05-30 13:29:56

by Matthias May

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Per chain RSSI reporting

On 27/05/17 23:49, Ben Greear wrote:
> On 05/27/2017 02:41 PM, Norik Dzhandzhapanyan wrote:
>> Yes ~6dB
>
> If a packet is sent on 1 chain with ath10k firmware (9880 hardware, specifically, but probably
> others as well), it will be around 6db higher on that particular chain
> than if the rate-control sends it on all three chains.
>
> Are you measuring on a single chain, or on all of the chains at once and adding
> the power?
>
> I think we would need more detailed reporting using a good third-party device before
> smoothing and RSSI.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>>

Also noteworthy is that if you measure in a cabled environment and add the signal from multiple chains with a combiner
you will probably measure the power wrong.
The reason for this is that the cyclic shift diversity doesn't work well in a 2 dimensional environment (cable) compared
to the 3 dimensional environment (air).

BR
Matthias

>>
>> From: Ben Greear
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Per chain RSSI reporting
>> To: Norik Dzhandzhapanyan, Adrian Chadd
>> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>>
>> On 05/27/2017 12:25 PM, Norik Dzhandzhapanyan wrote: > We see this inconsistent/incorrect reporting in our RF chamber.
>> How different are the values, and did you sniff with a third-party device to see if it sees the same spikes in RSSI?
>> Thanks, Ben > > Norik > > On 05/27/2017 09:39 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> On 27 May 2017 at 09:07, Ben Greear wrote:
>> >>> At low encoding rates, especially if it switches to a single-chain encoding, >>> maybe the on-air signal really is
>> stronger? >>> >>> Have you verified in some other manner than the signals reported by ath10k >>> are >>> wrong? >>
>> Hiya, >> >> So yeah, multipath, higher TX rates == weaker TX signal, TPC, etc are >> all interesting to know about at
>> the receiver. it's hard to separate >> that out from the noise sometimes, but in some controlled deployments >> its
>> really obvious. >> >> >> >> -adrian >> >> > > > The contents of this transmission are Ethertronics Inc. Confidential
>> and may contain proprietary or legally privileged
>> information which may not be disclosed, copied or distributed without the express written consent of Ethertronics Inc.
>> The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this transmission. If you are not
>> the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information
>> is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us by telephone immediately so that we
>> can arrange for the retrieval of the original documents at no cost to you. Alternatively, notify the sender by
>> replying to this transmission and delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you > -- Ben Greear Candela
>> Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
>>
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