I'm seeing something a bit strange and wondering if anyone had an opinion on why...
I am testing up to 200 wifi station systems, each with a TCP connection running
on them (download only, from VAP to stations).
Without encryption (ie, open network), I see total throughput go from
about 108Mbps down to 69Mbps as I add more stations (I add 25 at a time,
so the 108Mbps is with 25 active, and 69Mbps is with 200 active).
However, if I enable encryption, the throughput is actually higher
(111Mbps to 71Mbps). I'm doing encryption in software, so it adds a fair
bit of CPU load in this test. The numbers bounce around since this is
wifi after all, but in general encryption tends to win reliably in this
test.
When testing with a single station (and 5 tcp streams with jacked up snd/rcv buffers)
the open networks perform significantly better at total throughput: 263Mbps vs 246Mbps.
Maybe the extra delay for decryption increases odds that GRO will take
affect for the many, slower streams (and maybe that will decrease ACK traffic?)
Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Ben
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Ben Greear <[email protected]>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
On 10/03/2013 11:50 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
> On 10/03/2013 11:27 AM, Ben Greear wrote:
>> I'm seeing something a bit strange and wondering if anyone had an
>> opinion on why...
>>
>> I am testing up to 200 wifi station systems, each with a TCP connection
>> running on them (download only, from VAP to stations).
>>
>> Without encryption (ie, open network), I see total throughput go from
>> about 108Mbps down to 69Mbps as I add more stations (I add 25 at a time,
>> so the 108Mbps is with 25 active, and 69Mbps is with 200 active).
>>
>> However, if I enable encryption, the throughput is actually higher
>> (111Mbps to 71Mbps). I'm doing encryption in software, so it adds a fair
>> bit of CPU load in this test. The numbers bounce around since this is
>> wifi after all, but in general encryption tends to win reliably in this
>> test.
>>
>> When testing with a single station (and 5 tcp streams with jacked up
>> snd/rcv buffers) the open networks perform significantly better at total throughput:
>> 263Mbps vs 246Mbps.
>>
>> Maybe the extra delay for decryption increases odds that GRO will take
>> affect for the many, slower streams (and maybe that will decrease ACK
>> traffic?)
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>
> Fewer times two or more stations step on one another? The recievers will only try to transmit when they receive data. Modulo timing, if the individual
> downloads are a bit slower, less chance of the receivers looking to send ACKs back through at the same time? Got any low-level stats for the health and well
> being of the wireless network?
The tcp connection stats are taken after running for 60 seconds, and I take 3-sec running averages
as well as 60 second averages. So, I think that it would have to be total decrease in ACKs,
not just timing, to make a difference. The 3 and 60 second stats show consistently higher throughput
with encryption when using 25+ stations/connections.
Also, it works out that the sending sockets all sort of send randomly as they
are able, so I don't think there would be any particular ACK flood seen..
I have great quantities of low level stats, but I have not dug into them in detail
just yet. In general, my RF environment in this test is fairly controlled, as
I am cabling the systems using good semi-rigid SMA cables and an RF attenuator.
There will be some external interference of course, as they are not in an
isolation chamber.
As for the difference in 1 stations vs 25+, then it is very likely related to
low level things like MPDU working better with a single station, and probably
better ACK avoidance (I recall about 20kpps download, 4kpps upload in a previous
test with a single station, which indicates to me we must not be acking every
packet-on-the-air..somehow).
(For grins, I played with the delayed-ack-segs from an out-of-tree patch and
can get TCP throughput up to 300Mbps by setting delayed ack segs to 64 in
single station/5 stream, open network test).
Thanks,
Ben
>
> rick jones
--
Ben Greear <[email protected]>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
I was seeing an un-expectedly bad wifi train rates, so I changed to ath9k-rate-control,
rebooted, and re-ran the tests. Throughput is much improved. I really hope it wasn't just
a reboot that fixed it, but too burned out to do more tests today.
I still see better TCP throughput with WPA2 when using 25-200 stations/streams.
For anyone who wants to wade through some big automated reports, see the links
near the top of this page (suggestions for improving those reports are welcome):
http://www.candelatech.com/lf_wifi_examples.php
(The 600 station reports are a bit dated and were done in a fairly busy
wifi environment. We'll re-run those sometime soon-ish.)
Thanks,
Ben
--
Ben Greear <[email protected]>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
On 10/03/2013 11:27 AM, Ben Greear wrote:
> I'm seeing something a bit strange and wondering if anyone had an
> opinion on why...
>
> I am testing up to 200 wifi station systems, each with a TCP connection
> running on them (download only, from VAP to stations).
>
> Without encryption (ie, open network), I see total throughput go from
> about 108Mbps down to 69Mbps as I add more stations (I add 25 at a time,
> so the 108Mbps is with 25 active, and 69Mbps is with 200 active).
>
> However, if I enable encryption, the throughput is actually higher
> (111Mbps to 71Mbps). I'm doing encryption in software, so it adds a fair
> bit of CPU load in this test. The numbers bounce around since this is
> wifi after all, but in general encryption tends to win reliably in this
> test.
>
> When testing with a single station (and 5 tcp streams with jacked up
> snd/rcv buffers) the open networks perform significantly better at total throughput:
> 263Mbps vs 246Mbps.
>
> Maybe the extra delay for decryption increases odds that GRO will take
> affect for the many, slower streams (and maybe that will decrease ACK
> traffic?)
>
> Any other ideas?
Fewer times two or more stations step on one another? The recievers
will only try to transmit when they receive data. Modulo timing, if the
individual downloads are a bit slower, less chance of the receivers
looking to send ACKs back through at the same time? Got any low-level
stats for the health and well being of the wireless network?
rick jones