2015-01-15 19:34:27

by Mike Purvis

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Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

I'm having an issue with the Centrino Advanced-N 6235 module. I'm running
Ubuntu Trusty, and I've tried both the 3.13 and 3.16 kernels. Haven't yet
tried 3.18.

What's weirdest about it is that the module actually works with full
functionality on an Advantech AIMB-274 (Q87 chipset) with the described
software configuration. However, when I plug the module into either a Gigabyte
J1800N or an ASRock IMB-152 (J1900), I get no bluetooth— no hci0 device
comes up at all in hciconfig dev or rfkill list.

My sense is that the 6235 is a very popular module, and low-cost celeron
motherboards are also pretty popular, so there must be others who have run
into this. Maybe people just don't use bluetooth, or don't expect it to
work on Linux?

Anyhow, here is a gist with the dmesg boot log and lshw output:

https://gist.github.com/mikepurvis/ee7bc8fb85ff7ae64a9d

Looks like there's a crash in there related to intel integrated graphics—
could this be a cause? This is a headless machine, so disabling graphics
completely is on the table, if someone can suggest a good way to go
about that. Any other ideas as to what's going on here?

Thanks muchly.

--
Mike Purvis | Clearpath Robotics, Inc.
1425 Strasburg Road, Unit 2A , Kitchener, Ontario, N2R 1H2


2015-01-16 14:30:31

by Mike Purvis

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Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

Okay, captured the configuration from the working machine:

https://gist.github.com/mikepurvis/d8977be6865cebd18ff3

Looks like 8087:07da is the centrino bluetooth component, but it's not
at all obvious!

Thanks very much for the assistance.

Mike

On 15 January 2015 at 16:13, Johannes Berg <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 14:39 -0600, Pat Erley wrote:
>
>> I'd guess that the 6235 module has WLAN on the pci-e connector portion,
>> and Bluetooth on the USB portion.
>
> Yes, that's the case for all Intel wifi modules that have BT.
>
> johannes
>

2015-01-15 20:46:04

by Pat Erley

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Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

On 01/15/2015 01:34 PM, Mike Purvis wrote:
> I'm having an issue with the Centrino Advanced-N 6235 module. I'm running
> Ubuntu Trusty, and I've tried both the 3.13 and 3.16 kernels. Haven't yet
> tried 3.18.
>
> What's weirdest about it is that the module actually works with full
> functionality on an Advantech AIMB-274 (Q87 chipset) with the described
> software configuration. However, when I plug the module into either a Gigabyte
> J1800N or an ASRock IMB-152 (J1900), I get no bluetooth— no hci0 device
> comes up at all in hciconfig dev or rfkill list.

I'd guess that the 6235 module has WLAN on the pci-e connector portion,
and Bluetooth on the USB portion. Check the docs on the board you're
plugging it into, and I bet the mini-pcie connector doesn't have the
USB side wired up, or it's disabled in(or by) the bios?

>
> My sense is that the 6235 is a very popular module, and low-cost celeron
> motherboards are also pretty popular, so there must be others who have run
> into this. Maybe people just don't use bluetooth, or don't expect it to
> work on Linux?
>
> Anyhow, here is a gist with the dmesg boot log and lshw output:
>
> https://gist.github.com/mikepurvis/ee7bc8fb85ff7ae64a9d
>
> Looks like there's a crash in there related to intel integrated graphics—
> could this be a cause? This is a headless machine, so disabling graphics
> completely is on the table, if someone can suggest a good way to go
> about that. Any other ideas as to what's going on here?
>
> Thanks muchly.
>
> --
> Mike Purvis | Clearpath Robotics, Inc.
> 1425 Strasburg Road, Unit 2A , Kitchener, Ontario, N2R 1H2
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in
> the body of a message to [email protected]
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>


2015-01-15 21:00:53

by Mike Purvis

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Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

Hi Pat,

It's a good guess, but I don't think that's the case, in part because
the 6235 is a 2x2 MIMO module— the antennas are MAIN/AUX, not WIFI/BT.

I actually did encounter an Azurewave module which was set up that
way, and both portions came up on the Gigabyte motherboard— I would
have kept using that module, but there was a supply availability
issue, the wifi performance was very poor, and I was interested in
using a MIMO part.

On 15 January 2015 at 15:39, Pat Erley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 01/15/2015 01:34 PM, Mike Purvis wrote:
>>
>> I'm having an issue with the Centrino Advanced-N 6235 module. I'm running
>> Ubuntu Trusty, and I've tried both the 3.13 and 3.16 kernels. Haven't yet
>> tried 3.18.
>>
>> What's weirdest about it is that the module actually works with full
>> functionality on an Advantech AIMB-274 (Q87 chipset) with the described
>> software configuration. However, when I plug the module into either a
>> Gigabyte
>> J1800N or an ASRock IMB-152 (J1900), I get no bluetooth— no hci0 device
>> comes up at all in hciconfig dev or rfkill list.
>
>
> I'd guess that the 6235 module has WLAN on the pci-e connector portion,
> and Bluetooth on the USB portion. Check the docs on the board you're
> plugging it into, and I bet the mini-pcie connector doesn't have the
> USB side wired up, or it's disabled in(or by) the bios?
>
>>
>> My sense is that the 6235 is a very popular module, and low-cost celeron
>> motherboards are also pretty popular, so there must be others who have run
>> into this. Maybe people just don't use bluetooth, or don't expect it to
>> work on Linux?
>>
>> Anyhow, here is a gist with the dmesg boot log and lshw output:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/mikepurvis/ee7bc8fb85ff7ae64a9d
>>
>> Looks like there's a crash in there related to intel integrated graphics—
>> could this be a cause? This is a headless machine, so disabling graphics
>> completely is on the table, if someone can suggest a good way to go
>> about that. Any other ideas as to what's going on here?
>>
>> Thanks muchly.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Purvis | Clearpath Robotics, Inc.
>> 1425 Strasburg Road, Unit 2A , Kitchener, Ontario, N2R 1H2
>> --
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless"
>> in
>> the body of a message to [email protected]
>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>
>

2015-01-15 21:13:40

by Pat Erley

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Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

On 01/15/2015 03:00 PM, Mike Purvis wrote:
> Hi Pat,
>
> It's a good guess, but I don't think that's the case, in part because
> the 6235 is a 2x2 MIMO module— the antennas are MAIN/AUX, not WIFI/BT.
>
> I actually did encounter an Azurewave module which was set up that
> way, and both portions came up on the Gigabyte motherboard— I would
> have kept using that module, but there was a supply availability
> issue, the wifi performance was very poor, and I was interested in
> using a MIMO part.

Any chance you can plug the card back into the system it worked in and
catch the lspci and lsusb outputs? I think you might be surprised.

Wifi and BT can share antennas using something called bluetooth
co-exist (bt_coex is the iwlwifi module parameter to enable/disable
it).

I did some quick googling, and there are references to the 6235 modules
requiring a USB enabled mini-pcie slot.

>
> On 15 January 2015 at 15:39, Pat Erley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 01/15/2015 01:34 PM, Mike Purvis wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm having an issue with the Centrino Advanced-N 6235 module. I'm running
>>> Ubuntu Trusty, and I've tried both the 3.13 and 3.16 kernels. Haven't yet
>>> tried 3.18.
>>>
>>> What's weirdest about it is that the module actually works with full
>>> functionality on an Advantech AIMB-274 (Q87 chipset) with the described
>>> software configuration. However, when I plug the module into either a
>>> Gigabyte
>>> J1800N or an ASRock IMB-152 (J1900), I get no bluetooth— no hci0 device
>>> comes up at all in hciconfig dev or rfkill list.
>>
>>
>> I'd guess that the 6235 module has WLAN on the pci-e connector portion,
>> and Bluetooth on the USB portion. Check the docs on the board you're
>> plugging it into, and I bet the mini-pcie connector doesn't have the
>> USB side wired up, or it's disabled in(or by) the bios?
>>
>>>
>>> My sense is that the 6235 is a very popular module, and low-cost celeron
>>> motherboards are also pretty popular, so there must be others who have run
>>> into this. Maybe people just don't use bluetooth, or don't expect it to
>>> work on Linux?
>>>
>>> Anyhow, here is a gist with the dmesg boot log and lshw output:
>>>
>>> https://gist.github.com/mikepurvis/ee7bc8fb85ff7ae64a9d
>>>
>>> Looks like there's a crash in there related to intel integrated graphics—
>>> could this be a cause? This is a headless machine, so disabling graphics
>>> completely is on the table, if someone can suggest a good way to go
>>> about that. Any other ideas as to what's going on here?
>>>
>>> Thanks muchly.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Purvis | Clearpath Robotics, Inc.
>>> 1425 Strasburg Road, Unit 2A , Kitchener, Ontario, N2R 1H2
>>> --
>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless"
>>> in
>>> the body of a message to [email protected]
>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>>
>>
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2015-01-15 21:13:57

by Johannes Berg

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Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 14:39 -0600, Pat Erley wrote:

> I'd guess that the 6235 module has WLAN on the pci-e connector portion,
> and Bluetooth on the USB portion.

Yes, that's the case for all Intel wifi modules that have BT.

johannes