Sourced from the latest legislation at
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
---
db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
+# Source:
+# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
+# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
country AU: DFS-ETSI
- (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
- (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
- (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
- (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
- (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
+ (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
+ (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
+ (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
+ (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
+ (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
+ (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
+ (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
country AW: DFS-ETSI
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
--
2.11.0
Hi Sebastian,
There is no explicit channel width restriction in the document,
however the only band in which the current regdb rules permit 160MHz
operation (5490-5710MHz) would result in an overlap with the
restricted weather radar band 5600-5650MHz.
While remaining in compliance with both 802.11 and Australian law,
contiguous 160MHz operation in 5GHz is only permitted between
5170-5330MHz which spans two bands with slightly different
requirements, hence AUTO-BW.
Regards,
Ryan Mounce
[email protected]
On 19 February 2017 at 07:15, Sebastian Gottschall
<[email protected]> wrote:
> maybe i'm blind. but you reduced the channel width from 160 to 80 mhz. bu=
t i
> can't find any restriction in the document in a quick review
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> Am 18.02.2017 um 07:35 schrieb Ryan Mounce:
>>
>> Sourced from the latest legislation at
>> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
>>
>> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
>> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
>> ---
>> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
>> index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
>> --- a/db.txt
>> +++ b/db.txt
>> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>> +# Source:
>> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
>> country AU: DFS-ETSI
>> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
>> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
>> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
>> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
>> + (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
>> + (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
>> + (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
>> + (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
>> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
>> + (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
>> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>> country AW: DFS-ETSI
>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>
>
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BCssen / Regards
>
> Sebastian Gottschall / CTO
>
> NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT
> Firmensitz: Berliner Ring 101, 64625 Bensheim
> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473
> Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Peter Steinh=C3=A4user, Christian Scheele
> http://www.dd-wrt.com
> email: [email protected]
> Tel.: +496251-582650 / Fax: +496251-5826565
>
Australian regulations differ from most of Europe, the USA and even
New Zealand (which shares AS/NZS 4268) in that any unlicensed
operation between 5600-5650MHz is prohibited outright, rather than
being allowed after an extended DFS channel availability check.
The situation appears to be similar in Canada, the regdb has
previously been amended to reflect this.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/sforshee/wireless-regdb.git/co=
mmit/db.txt?id=3Dce7697d3def48f87427b3a3c285b46241af3b79d
On 19 February 2017 at 22:46, Sebastian Gottschall
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Am 19.02.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Ryan Mounce:
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>>
>> There is no explicit channel width restriction in the document,
>> however the only band in which the current regdb rules permit 160MHz
>> operation (5490-5710MHz) would result in an overlap with the
>> restricted weather radar band 5600-5650MHz.
>
> thats the case for all countries, so this couldnt be a argument. dfs shou=
ld
> handle this
>
>>
>> While remaining in compliance with both 802.11 and Australian law,
>> contiguous 160MHz operation in 5GHz is only permitted between
>> 5170-5330MHz which spans two bands with slightly different
>> requirements, hence AUTO-BW.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ryan Mounce
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>> On 19 February 2017 at 07:15, Sebastian Gottschall
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> maybe i'm blind. but you reduced the channel width from 160 to 80 mhz.
>>> but i
>>> can't find any restriction in the document in a quick review
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 18.02.2017 um 07:35 schrieb Ryan Mounce:
>>>>
>>>> Sourced from the latest legislation at
>>>> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
>>>>
>>>> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
>>>> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
>>>> ---
>>>> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
>>>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
>>>> index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
>>>> --- a/db.txt
>>>> +++ b/db.txt
>>>> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
>>>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
>>>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>>>> +# Source:
>>>> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>>>> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
>>>> country AU: DFS-ETSI
>>>> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>>>> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
>>>> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
>>>> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
>>>> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
>>>> + (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
>>>> + (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
>>>> + (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
>>>> + (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
>>>> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
>>>> + (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
>>>> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>>>> country AW: DFS-ETSI
>>>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BCssen / Regards
>>>
>>> Sebastian Gottschall / CTO
>>>
>>> NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT
>>> Firmensitz: Berliner Ring 101, 64625 Bensheim
>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473
>>> Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Peter Steinh=C3=A4user, Christian Scheele
>>> http://www.dd-wrt.com
>>> email: [email protected]
>>> Tel.: +496251-582650 / Fax: +496251-5826565
>>>
>
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BCssen / Regards
>
> Sebastian Gottschall / CTO
>
> NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT
> Firmensitz: Berliner Ring 101, 64625 Bensheim
> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473
> Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Peter Steinh=C3=A4user, Christian Scheele
> http://www.dd-wrt.com
> email: [email protected]
> Tel.: +496251-582650 / Fax: +496251-5826565
>
On 23 February 2017 at 08:00, Seth Forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 05:05:15PM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
>> Sourced from the latest legislation at
>> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
>
> This link isn't working for me.
Oops, I truncated that URL. Working link (also in the patch itself):
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
>> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
>
> The changes also increases the limits for most other ranges, by quite a
> bit in some cases. Seems that this should also be mentioned in the
> changelog, and I'd like to be able to check those changes against the
> documentation.
All of the updated power limits are converted to dBm but otherwise
straight out of the document, so they shouldn't be a problem. I'll
update the changelog to note this.
The frequency ranges have been "rounded down" to conform with the
apparent convention of only including ranges used by standard 802.11
channels, rather than using the actual frequency ranges as has been
done for some countries (and most 60GHz rules). My preference is the
latter so that there is a clear correlation between the regdb and
relevant documentation, and so that the regdb may become useful beyond
802.11. With your blessing as maintainer I will also make this change
to the patch.
Regards,
Ryan Mounce
> Thanks,
> Seth
>
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
>> ---
>> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
>> index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
>> --- a/db.txt
>> +++ b/db.txt
>> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>>
>> +# Source:
>> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
>> country AU: DFS-ETSI
>> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
>> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
>> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
>> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
>> + (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
>> + (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
>> + (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
>> + (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
>> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
>> + (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
>> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>>
>> country AW: DFS-ETSI
>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>> --
>> 2.11.0
>>
Sourced from the current legislation at
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
in most other bands.
In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
---
db.txt | 18 +++++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 05108e0..0f1e151 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -85,12 +85,20 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
+# Source:
+# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
+# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B.
+# The EIRP for DFS bands can be increased by 3dB if TPC is implemented.
+# In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz the upper boundary
+# of this more restrictive band has been shifted up by 5MHz from 5725MHz.
country AU: DFS-ETSI
- (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
- (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
- (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
- (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
- (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
+ (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (36)
+ (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
+ (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
+ (5470 - 5600 @ 80), (27), DFS
+ (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (27), DFS
+ (5730 - 5850 @ 80), (36)
+ (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
country AW: DFS-ETSI
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
--
2.11.0
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 06:58:45AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
>
> > The frequency ranges have been "rounded down" to conform with the
> > apparent convention of only including ranges used by standard 802.11
> > channels, rather than using the actual frequency ranges as has been
> > done for some countries (and most 60GHz rules). My preference is the
> > latter so that there is a clear correlation between the regdb and
> > relevant documentation, and so that the regdb may become useful
> > beyond 802.11. With your blessing as maintainer I will also make this
> > change to the patch.
>
> I think that's just an artifact of the original database source and
> would also prefer the documented ranges to be used.
Yes, I prefer the documented ranges as well.
Thanks,
Seth
> The frequency ranges have been "rounded down" to conform with the
> apparent convention of only including ranges used by standard 802.11
> channels, rather than using the actual frequency ranges as has been
> done for some countries (and most 60GHz rules). My preference is the
> latter so that there is a clear correlation between the regdb and
> relevant documentation, and so that the regdb may become useful
> beyond 802.11. With your blessing as maintainer I will also make this
> change to the patch.
I think that's just an artifact of the original database source and
would also prefer the documented ranges to be used.
johannes
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 01:20:24PM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
> On 24 February 2017 at 02:05, Seth Forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:22:53AM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
> >> Sourced from the current legislation at
> >> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
> >>
> >> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
> >> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
> >>
> >> Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
> >> match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
> >> never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
> >> significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
> >> in most other bands.
> >>
> >> In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
> >> bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
> >> ---
> >> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
> >> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> >> index 05108e0..00e81b6 100644
> >> --- a/db.txt
> >> +++ b/db.txt
> >> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
> >> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
> >> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
> >>
> >> +# Source:
> >> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
> >> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
> >> country AU: DFS-ETSI
> >> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> >> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
> >> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
> >> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
> >> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> >> + (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (36)
> >
> > The mention of ETSI EN 300 328 in item 55 (a) leads me to believe that
> > this is the limit we should be using, i.e. 500 mW. It is a bit confusing
> > though since it seems like such devices would also fall under "digital
> > modulation transmitters."
>
> Item 55 applies only to frequency hopping transmitters e.g. Bluetooth.
> As a local, I can say with some degree of certainty that 4W/36dBm is
> the correct 2.4GHz ISM EIRP for Australia. It is advertised as the
> EIRP in the 802.11d IE of commercial devices e.g. Cisco Aironet APs
> and widely deployed ISP gateways in Australia, among other devices
> that have received relevant approvals.
Okay, looking at that section again that makes sense.
> >> + (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
> >
> > This looks correct.
> >
> >> + (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
> >
> > Since this range requires TPC we need to set the power limit at 100 mW.
> >
> >> + (5470 - 5600 @ 80), (30), DFS
> >> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
> >
> > These ranges also require TPC so we need to set the limit at 500 mW.
>
> I was unsure about this one. Setting this to 27dBm also affects the
> 802.11d country information IE, however when the DFS flag is set a 3dB
> 802.11h power constraint IE is also advertised so stations will limit
> themselves to (27-3)=24dBm/250mW.
>
> Given the choice between unnecessarily halving transmit power on
> stations and potentially transmitting at twice the permissible power
> on APs without TPC I agree that the conservative approach should be
> taken for now. Ideally I think that the actual EIRP limits should be
> in the regdb and a 3dB constraint should be applied automatically on
> APs that cannot support TPC when the DFS flag is set.
>
> >> + (5730 - 5850 @ 80), (36)
> >
> > In the document the ranges are 5650-5725 MHz and 5725-5850 MHz. I
> > suspect that the existing rules fudge that to line up with the wifi
> > channels, which technically is okay because the rules in the former
> > range are more restrictive. I wonder if we shouldn't be recording them
> > here as per the document and adding AUTO-BW. Johannes, any thoughts?
>
> I've tested with AUTO-BW and it doesn't work in this case as channel
> 144 will be disabled if it doesn't exist entirely within one band.
> Fudging the more restrictive rules by a mere 5MHz to fit 802.11
> channels seems to be the status quo.
I wonder why AUTO-BW doesn't work. In that case it's certainly fine to
keep those ranges as they are.
Thanks,
Seth
On 24 February 2017 at 02:05, Seth Forshee <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:22:53AM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
>> Sourced from the current legislation at
>> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>>
>> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
>> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
>>
>> Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
>> match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
>> never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
>> significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
>> in most other bands.
>>
>> In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
>> bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
>> ---
>> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
>> index 05108e0..00e81b6 100644
>> --- a/db.txt
>> +++ b/db.txt
>> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>>
>> +# Source:
>> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
>> country AU: DFS-ETSI
>> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
>> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
>> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
>> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
>> + (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (36)
>
> The mention of ETSI EN 300 328 in item 55 (a) leads me to believe that
> this is the limit we should be using, i.e. 500 mW. It is a bit confusing
> though since it seems like such devices would also fall under "digital
> modulation transmitters."
Item 55 applies only to frequency hopping transmitters e.g. Bluetooth.
As a local, I can say with some degree of certainty that 4W/36dBm is
the correct 2.4GHz ISM EIRP for Australia. It is advertised as the
EIRP in the 802.11d IE of commercial devices e.g. Cisco Aironet APs
and widely deployed ISP gateways in Australia, among other devices
that have received relevant approvals.
>> + (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
>
> This looks correct.
>
>> + (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
>
> Since this range requires TPC we need to set the power limit at 100 mW.
>
>> + (5470 - 5600 @ 80), (30), DFS
>> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
>
> These ranges also require TPC so we need to set the limit at 500 mW.
I was unsure about this one. Setting this to 27dBm also affects the
802.11d country information IE, however when the DFS flag is set a 3dB
802.11h power constraint IE is also advertised so stations will limit
themselves to (27-3)=24dBm/250mW.
Given the choice between unnecessarily halving transmit power on
stations and potentially transmitting at twice the permissible power
on APs without TPC I agree that the conservative approach should be
taken for now. Ideally I think that the actual EIRP limits should be
in the regdb and a 3dB constraint should be applied automatically on
APs that cannot support TPC when the DFS flag is set.
>> + (5730 - 5850 @ 80), (36)
>
> In the document the ranges are 5650-5725 MHz and 5725-5850 MHz. I
> suspect that the existing rules fudge that to line up with the wifi
> channels, which technically is okay because the rules in the former
> range are more restrictive. I wonder if we shouldn't be recording them
> here as per the document and adding AUTO-BW. Johannes, any thoughts?
I've tested with AUTO-BW and it doesn't work in this case as channel
144 will be disabled if it doesn't exist entirely within one band.
Fudging the more restrictive rules by a mere 5MHz to fit 802.11
channels seems to be the status quo.
>> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>
> This looks correct.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth
Regards,
Ryan Mounce
maybe i'm blind. but you reduced the channel width from 160 to 80 mhz.
but i can't find any restriction in the document in a quick review
Sebastian
Am 18.02.2017 um 07:35 schrieb Ryan Mounce:
> Sourced from the latest legislation at
> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
>
> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
>
> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
> ---
> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>
> +# Source:
> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
> country AU: DFS-ETSI
> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> + (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
> + (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
> + (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
> + (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
> + (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>
> country AW: DFS-ETSI
> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
--
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NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT
Firmensitz: Berliner Ring 101, 64625 Bensheim
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473
Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Peter Steinh?user, Christian Scheele
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email: [email protected]
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:22:53AM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
> Sourced from the current legislation at
> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>
> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
>
> Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
> match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
> never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
> significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
> in most other bands.
>
> In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
> bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
> ---
> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index 05108e0..00e81b6 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>
> +# Source:
> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
> country AU: DFS-ETSI
> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> + (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (36)
The mention of ETSI EN 300 328 in item 55 (a) leads me to believe that
this is the limit we should be using, i.e. 500 mW. It is a bit confusing
though since it seems like such devices would also fall under "digital
modulation transmitters."
> + (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
This looks correct.
> + (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
Since this range requires TPC we need to set the power limit at 100 mW.
> + (5470 - 5600 @ 80), (30), DFS
> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
These ranges also require TPC so we need to set the limit at 500 mW.
> + (5730 - 5850 @ 80), (36)
In the document the ranges are 5650-5725 MHz and 5725-5850 MHz. I
suspect that the existing rules fudge that to line up with the wifi
channels, which technically is okay because the rules in the former
range are more restrictive. I wonder if we shouldn't be recording them
here as per the document and adding AUTO-BW. Johannes, any thoughts?
> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
This looks correct.
Thanks,
Seth
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 05:05:15PM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
> Sourced from the latest legislation at
> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
This link isn't working for me.
> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
The changes also increases the limits for most other ranges, by quite a
bit in some cases. Seems that this should also be mentioned in the
changelog, and I'd like to be able to check those changes against the
documentation.
Thanks,
Seth
>
> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
> ---
> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>
> +# Source:
> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
> country AU: DFS-ETSI
> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> + (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
> + (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
> + (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
> + (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
> + (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>
> country AW: DFS-ETSI
> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> --
> 2.11.0
>
Am 19.02.2017 um 01:01 schrieb Ryan Mounce:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> There is no explicit channel width restriction in the document,
> however the only band in which the current regdb rules permit 160MHz
> operation (5490-5710MHz) would result in an overlap with the
> restricted weather radar band 5600-5650MHz.
thats the case for all countries, so this couldnt be a argument. dfs
should handle this
>
> While remaining in compliance with both 802.11 and Australian law,
> contiguous 160MHz operation in 5GHz is only permitted between
> 5170-5330MHz which spans two bands with slightly different
> requirements, hence AUTO-BW.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan Mounce
>
> [email protected]
>
> On 19 February 2017 at 07:15, Sebastian Gottschall
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> maybe i'm blind. but you reduced the channel width from 160 to 80 mhz. but i
>> can't find any restriction in the document in a quick review
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> Am 18.02.2017 um 07:35 schrieb Ryan Mounce:
>>> Sourced from the latest legislation at
>>> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C0043
>>>
>>> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
>>> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (reserved for weather radar).
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
>>> ---
>>> db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
>>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
>>> index 05108e0..b951e0c 100644
>>> --- a/db.txt
>>> +++ b/db.txt
>>> @@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
>>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
>>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>>> +# Source:
>>> +# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>>> +# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
>>> country AU: DFS-ETSI
>>> - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>>> - (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
>>> - (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
>>> - (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
>>> - (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
>>> + (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (36)
>>> + (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
>>> + (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
>>> + (5490 - 5590 @ 80), (30), DFS
>>> + (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
>>> + (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (36)
>>> + (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
>>> country AW: DFS-ETSI
>>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Regards
>>
>> Sebastian Gottschall / CTO
>>
>> NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT
>> Firmensitz: Berliner Ring 101, 64625 Bensheim
>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473
>> Geschäftsführer: Peter Steinhäuser, Christian Scheele
>> http://www.dd-wrt.com
>> email: [email protected]
>> Tel.: +496251-582650 / Fax: +496251-5826565
>>
--
Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Regards
Sebastian Gottschall / CTO
NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT
Firmensitz: Berliner Ring 101, 64625 Bensheim
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473
Geschäftsführer: Peter Steinhäuser, Christian Scheele
http://www.dd-wrt.com
email: [email protected]
Tel.: +496251-582650 / Fax: +496251-5826565
Sourced from the current legislation at
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
in most other bands.
In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
---
db.txt | 15 ++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 05108e0..00e81b6 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -85,12 +85,17 @@ country AT: DFS-ETSI
# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
+# Source:
+# https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
+# Both DFS-ETSI and DFS-FCC are acceptable per AS/NZS 4268 Appendix B
country AU: DFS-ETSI
- (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
- (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (17), AUTO-BW
- (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (24), DFS, AUTO-BW
- (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (24), DFS
- (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
+ (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (36)
+ (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
+ (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (23), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, DFS
+ (5470 - 5600 @ 80), (30), DFS
+ (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
+ (5730 - 5850 @ 80), (36)
+ (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (43), NO-OUTDOOR
country AW: DFS-ETSI
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
--
2.11.0
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 01:40:27PM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
> Sourced from the current legislation at
> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>
> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
>
> Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
> match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
> never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
> significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
> in most other bands.
>
> In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
> bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
Applied, thanks.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 01:40:27PM +1030, Ryan Mounce wrote:
> Sourced from the current legislation at
> https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00432
>
> The current rules exceed legal limits between 5250-5330MHz, and permit
> illegal operation in 5600-5650MHz (disallowed regardless of DFS).
>
> Frequency ranges and EIRP limits for all ranges have been updated to
> match items 59-63, 65 in the linked document. As the rules for AU have
> never previously mirrored local regulations, changes include a
> significant increase in the allowable 2.4GHz EIRP and smaller increases
> in most other bands.
>
> In order to allow 80MHz operation between 5650-5730MHz (bordering two
> bands) the lower, more restrictive band has been rounded up by 5MHz.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ryan Mounce <[email protected]>
This looks good to me. I'll give it a few more days to see if anyone
else has comments.
Thanks,
Seth