2021-08-26 02:30:01

by Masahiro Yamada

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kconfig: forbid symbols that end with '_MODULE'

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:42 AM Boris Kolpackov
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Masahiro Yamada <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Kconfig (syncconfig) generates include/generated/autoconf.h to make
> > CONFIG options available to the pre-processor.
> >
> > The macros are suffixed with '_MODULE' for symbols with the value 'm'.
> >
> > Here is a conflict; CONFIG_FOO=m results in '#define CONFIG_FOO_MODULE 1',
> > but CONFIG_FOO_MODULE=y also results in the same define.
> >
> > fixdep always assumes CONFIG_FOO_MODULE comes from CONFIG_FOO=m, so the
> > dependency is not properly tracked for symbols that end with '_MODULE'.
>
> It seem to me the problem is in autoconf.h/fixdep, not in the Kconfig
> language.


Partly a Kconfig problem since autoconf.h is generated by Kconfig.

So, what is your suggestion for doing this correctly?
(of course without breaking the compatibility
because this is how the kernel is configured/built
for more than 20 years)




>
> > This commit makes Kconfig error out if it finds a symbol suffixed with
> > '_MODULE'.
>
> I know you don't care, but I will voice my objection, for the record:
> Kconfig is used by projects other than the Linux kernel and some of
> them do not use the autoconf.h functionality. For such projects this
> restriction seems arbitrary and potentially backwards-incompatible.

I am not sure what your worry is, but this check resides in
"if (modules_sym)" conditional, so projects using Kconfig but
not module functionality (e.g. buildroot) will not be affected.



--
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada


2021-08-26 12:17:36

by Boris Kolpackov

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kconfig: forbid symbols that end with '_MODULE'

Masahiro Yamada <[email protected]> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:42 AM Boris Kolpackov
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Masahiro Yamada <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> > > Kconfig (syncconfig) generates include/generated/autoconf.h to make
> > > CONFIG options available to the pre-processor.
> > >
> > > The macros are suffixed with '_MODULE' for symbols with the value 'm'.
> > >
> > > Here is a conflict; CONFIG_FOO=m results in '#define CONFIG_FOO_MODULE 1',
> > > but CONFIG_FOO_MODULE=y also results in the same define.
> > >
> > > fixdep always assumes CONFIG_FOO_MODULE comes from CONFIG_FOO=m, so the
> > > dependency is not properly tracked for symbols that end with '_MODULE'.
> >
> > It seem to me the problem is in autoconf.h/fixdep, not in the Kconfig
> > language.
>
> So, what is your suggestion for doing this correctly?
> (of course without breaking the compatibility
> because this is how the kernel is configured/built
> for more than 20 years)

Yes, I appreciate that fixing this properly may not be an option
due to backwards-compatibility. How about then moving the check
from the language closer to the place where it will actually be
an issue. Specifically, can the error be triggered when we are
about to write #define to autoconf.h and see that the name ends
with _MODULE?


> > I know you don't care, but I will voice my objection, for the record:
> > Kconfig is used by projects other than the Linux kernel and some of
> > them do not use the autoconf.h functionality. For such projects this
> > restriction seems arbitrary and potentially backwards-incompatible.
>
> I am not sure what your worry is, but this check resides in
> "if (modules_sym)" conditional, so projects using Kconfig but
> not module functionality (e.g. buildroot) will not be affected.

The Kconfig module semantics is actually general enough that a
project other than the Linux kernel could reuse it. (I've written
more on this possibility here[1]).

[1] https://build2.org/libbuild2-kconfig/doc/build2-kconfig-manual.xhtml#lang-mod