2009-07-16 16:40:01

by Jon Fairbairn

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

"Luis R. Rodriguez" <[email protected]>
writes:

> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Jon
> Fairbairn<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> A machine I want to set up as an AP has only PCI express slots free...
>
> I'd recommend ath9k.

> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k

Thanks, but I've seen that page and "products with supported ath9k
cards" points to a page that lists "Laptops with ath9k cards" (I'm
looking for PCIe, not mini-PCIe) and "APs with ath9k cards", not "ath9k
cards". Before I can buy a card, I need to know what it is called in the
shops (on-line or otherwise), not what chipset it has.

I realise this is the manufacturer's fault, but this is a perennial
problem for Linux users who want to buy an new card for something: "OK,
I want something with such-and-such a chipset, but the on-line shops
just don't say what the chipset is.

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2009-07-16 16:48:25

by Luis R. Rodriguez

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Jon
Fairbairn<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[email protected]>
> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Jon
>> Fairbairn<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> A machine I want to set up as an AP has only PCI express slots free...
>>
>> I'd recommend ath9k.
>
>> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
>
> Thanks, but I've seen that page and "products with supported ath9k
> cards" points to a page that lists "Laptops with ath9k cards" (I'm
> looking for PCIe, not mini-PCIe) and "APs with ath9k cards", not "ath9k
> cards". Before I can buy a card, I need to know what it is called in the
> shops (on-line or otherwise), not what chipset it has.

The page lists all products and the manufacturer names of the products.

But yeah, I am not aware of PCI-Express devices sold in the market
with separately. Adding Pen Li in case he is aware.

Pen, this e-mail is in a public mailing list.

Luis

2009-07-17 00:00:03

by Luis R. Rodriguez

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Jouni Malinen<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 05:39:47PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
>> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[email protected]>
>> writes:
>> > http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
>
>> Thanks, but I've seen that page and "products with supported ath9k
>> cards" points to a page that lists "Laptops with ath9k cards" (I'm
>> looking for PCIe, not mini-PCIe) and "APs with ath9k cards", not "ath9k
>> cards". Before I can buy a card, I need to know what it is called in the
>> shops (on-line or otherwise), not what chipset it has.
>
> I don't know how the product list ended up being split that way, but the
> "laptops" page does actually include number of D-Link adapters,
> including a PCIe desktop adapter (D-Link DWA-556) that seems to match
> the request. I saw it at Fry's last week and it does indeed look like a
> PCIe card.

Sorry that was my doing, I forgot there were a few external cards
available, I've updated the wiki to reflect this and added a new
external cards page:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k/products/external

Luis

2009-07-16 17:01:43

by Gábor Stefanik

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Jon
> Fairbairn<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[email protected]>
>> writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Jon
>>> Fairbairn<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A machine I want to set up as an AP has only PCI express slots free...
>>>
>>> I'd recommend ath9k.
>>
>>> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
>>
>> Thanks, but I've seen that page and "products with supported ath9k
>> cards" points to a page that lists "Laptops with ath9k cards" (I'm
>> looking for PCIe, not mini-PCIe) and "APs with ath9k cards", not "ath9k
>> cards". Before I can buy a card, I need to know what it is called in the
>> shops (on-line or otherwise), not what chipset it has.
>
> The page lists all products and the manufacturer names of the products.
>
> But yeah, I am not aware of PCI-Express devices sold in the market
> with separately. Adding Pen Li in case he is aware.
>
> Pen, this e-mail is in a public mailing list.
>
> ?Luis
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A possible solution to the PCIE vs. MiniPCIE problem:
http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/MP2W.html
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=MP2W

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2009-07-16 23:50:22

by Jouni Malinen

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Subject: Re: PCI express card that does AP mode? (abit wlp-01?)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 05:39:47PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <[email protected]>
> writes:
> > http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k

> Thanks, but I've seen that page and "products with supported ath9k
> cards" points to a page that lists "Laptops with ath9k cards" (I'm
> looking for PCIe, not mini-PCIe) and "APs with ath9k cards", not "ath9k
> cards". Before I can buy a card, I need to know what it is called in the
> shops (on-line or otherwise), not what chipset it has.

I don't know how the product list ended up being split that way, but the
"laptops" page does actually include number of D-Link adapters,
including a PCIe desktop adapter (D-Link DWA-556) that seems to match
the request. I saw it at Fry's last week and it does indeed look like a
PCIe card. It is not exactly the least expensive option and is not the
latest 11n MAC revision, but at least it is available and I would expect
it to work with ath9k in AP mode.

> I realise this is the manufacturer's fault, but this is a perennial
> problem for Linux users who want to buy an new card for something: "OK,
> I want something with such-and-such a chipset, but the on-line shops
> just don't say what the chipset is.

Combination of model number (and revision in some cases! urgh) and
driver download and/or FCCID lookup can help with that, but yes, this is
quite painful in many cases. However, I've also seen some cards that
have the box actually listing both the chipset vendor (even both MAC and
PHY model number) and Linux support, so there is some hope in figuring
this out even at a store without having to do an internet lookup..

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