Hello,
I was trying to build a monolytic Linux 2.2.20 kernel for a Dell 2550
system, but found that the BCM5700 Gbit driver is not part of the Linux 2.2
series. Is someone putting effort in making the driver go into the 2.2
kernel or will it only be used as a module?
Greetings, John
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From: John Eskes <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:41:40 +0100
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I am going to block postings from you to these lists if you cannot
make postings without including this rude 20 line disclaimer.
Probably John Eskes is the just messenger. These silly and huge signatures are
crawling all over the place. Just the other day people in my previous job, a practical
and feet on ground middle size company, were told by a marketing guy (i don't have
a better description of what he does) to use one, apparently to look like a
"corporation" of some sort to customers, never mind the fact they don't have any
policy whatsoever on email and internet usage. But i digress. In this case it seems to
be the Dutch police. If they didn't have internal policies, who would have? :)
/Pedro
On 22 Feb 2002 at 2:46, David S. Miller wrote:
> From: John Eskes <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:41:40 +0100
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On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 05:24, Pedro M. Rodrigues wrote:
> Probably John Eskes is the just messenger. These silly and huge signatures are
> crawling all over the place.
Still, the party sending the message is responsible for initiating the
transmission of this legal mumbo jumbo. By using a service
provider(employers included) that attach these sorts of messages the
sender is implicitly assenting to abide by such disclaimers of rights
and responsibilities. Whether the disclaimer is valid or not is
irrelevant; if a party submitting a message to a list meant for public
and open discourse, personally or on behalf of his/her employer tries to
foist rude and/or onerous legal claims on said message, especially with
disregard to bandwidth and etiquette, they should fully expect to be
booted or blocked from the list.
> If they didn't have internal policies, who would have? :)
Policies are fine. Nobody has anything against policy. If, however, that
policy dictates that one is forced to append a load of crap on every
transmission to a public mailing list, then the list admin has every
right to blacklist that person. It doesn't matter that the sender may
have no control over the appended boilerplate. If the sender doesn't
agree with or ignores his provider's/employer's policy it's his
responsibility to get the policy changed or not use such a crap
provider. There are plenty of decent free email providers out there that
don't pull this kind of crap, so I'd suggest using one of those instead.
If a submitter to linux-kernel with such nasty and crude legalese is
required to do so on company business in some official capacity, then
I'd say they have more serious problems than getting blacklisted.
Sorry for the offtopic post, I just had to get that off my chest. The
only way to get people to stop pulling stupid-disclaimer-tricks is to
call them on it and not be afraid to get a little rough.
Regards,
Reid
> Disclaimer:
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> I am going to block postings from you to these lists if you cannot
> make postings without including this rude 20 line disclaimer.
You might also want to consider customising the 220 banner message to make
the point - eg ...
220 the-village.bc.nu ESMTP - by continuing to send mail you waive all
confidentiality claims in the message and grant reproduction rights
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:11:46PM +0000, Reid Hekman wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 05:24, Pedro M. Rodrigues wrote:
> > Probably John Eskes is the just messenger. These silly and huge signatures are
> > crawling all over the place.
>
> Still, the party sending the message is responsible for initiating the
> transmission of this legal mumbo jumbo. By using a service
> provider(employers included) that attach these sorts of messages the
> sender is implicitly assenting to abide by such disclaimers of rights
> and responsibilities. Whether the disclaimer is valid or not is
In this case the employer is the Dutch Police. I'm not sure how flexible
they can be. I'm happy they are even allowed to post to public forums with
their questions and don't have to resort to sneakily using private accounts
to do so.
Regards,
bert
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