Since chromium.org is now enforcing DMARC, my mails are going to
people's spam folders. While this development might be desirable
for people I communicate with, it's undesirable for me :-)
Cc: Dave Airlie <[email protected]>
Cc: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
---
MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index 93f189f0d60d..5eaa1c91d4a4 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -4662,7 +4662,7 @@ F: include/linux/vga*
DRM DRIVERS AND MISC GPU PATCHES
M: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
M: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
-M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
+M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
W: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html
S: Maintained
T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
--
Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Sean Paul wrote:
> Since chromium.org is now enforcing DMARC, my mails are going to
> people's spam folders. While this development might be desirable
> for people I communicate with, it's undesirable for me :-)
>
> Cc: Dave Airlie <[email protected]>
> Cc: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
> Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
> Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
> ---
> MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 93f189f0d60d..5eaa1c91d4a4 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -4662,7 +4662,7 @@ F: include/linux/vga*
> DRM DRIVERS AND MISC GPU PATCHES
> M: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
> M: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
> -M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
> +M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
Glorious domain :-)
Aside: ffwll.ch has been running with dkim since a while, seems to work
correctly. You just need non-strict dkim enforcement, which at least for
gapps is the default.
But even then Linus' gmail inbox throws my mails away every once in a
while, so email clearly doesn't work.
</rant>
Acked-by: Daniel Vetter <[email protected]>
> W: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html
> S: Maintained
> T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
> --
> Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [email protected]
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 09:32:48AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Sean Paul wrote:
> > Since chromium.org is now enforcing DMARC, my mails are going to
> > people's spam folders. While this development might be desirable
> > for people I communicate with, it's undesirable for me :-)
> >
> > Cc: Dave Airlie <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
> > Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
> > ---
> > MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> > index 93f189f0d60d..5eaa1c91d4a4 100644
> > --- a/MAINTAINERS
> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> > @@ -4662,7 +4662,7 @@ F: include/linux/vga*
> > DRM DRIVERS AND MISC GPU PATCHES
> > M: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
> > M: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
> > -M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
> > +M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
>
> Glorious domain :-)
>
> Aside: ffwll.ch has been running with dkim since a while, seems to work
> correctly. You just need non-strict dkim enforcement, which at least for
> gapps is the default.
>
> But even then Linus' gmail inbox throws my mails away every once in a
> while, so email clearly doesn't work.
My (completely incorrect, i'm sure) understanding is that DKIM is fine, but
DMARC is the problem.
It seems Mailman was altering some (or all) of my messages which caused DMARC
to fail. At the very least the "Prevent duplicate messages" setting in mailman
strips users cc from the headers. So if any one of the recipients has this
setting enabled, the headers are munged, DMARC fails, and emails go to spam.
>
> </rant>
>
> Acked-by: Daniel Vetter <[email protected]>
Thanks, pushed to -misc-next-fixes
Sean
> > W: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html
> > S: Maintained
> > T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
> > --
> > Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dri-devel mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
>
> --
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> http://blog.ffwll.ch
--
Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Sean Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 09:32:48AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Sean Paul wrote:
>> > Since chromium.org is now enforcing DMARC, my mails are going to
>> > people's spam folders. While this development might be desirable
>> > for people I communicate with, it's undesirable for me :-)
>> >
>> > Cc: Dave Airlie <[email protected]>
>> > Cc: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
>> > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
>> > Signed-off-by: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
>> > ---
>> > MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
>> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>> > index 93f189f0d60d..5eaa1c91d4a4 100644
>> > --- a/MAINTAINERS
>> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>> > @@ -4662,7 +4662,7 @@ F: include/linux/vga*
>> > DRM DRIVERS AND MISC GPU PATCHES
>> > M: Gustavo Padovan <[email protected]>
>> > M: Maarten Lankhorst <[email protected]>
>> > -M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
>> > +M: Sean Paul <[email protected]>
>>
>> Glorious domain :-)
>>
>> Aside: ffwll.ch has been running with dkim since a while, seems to work
>> correctly. You just need non-strict dkim enforcement, which at least for
>> gapps is the default.
>>
>> But even then Linus' gmail inbox throws my mails away every once in a
>> while, so email clearly doesn't work.
>
> My (completely incorrect, i'm sure) understanding is that DKIM is fine, but
> DMARC is the problem.
>
> It seems Mailman was altering some (or all) of my messages which caused DMARC
> to fail. At the very least the "Prevent duplicate messages" setting in mailman
> strips users cc from the headers. So if any one of the recipients has this
> setting enabled, the headers are munged, DMARC fails, and emails go to spam.
Hm tbh I didn't know about DMARC yet. Sounds like it just tells the
recipient how your domain would like SPF/DKIM failures to be handled.
One of these (if configured correctly) should survive mailing lists. I
did crawl dri-devel a bit, and there's mails that passed through with
full dmarc enforcement. So it's not impossible.
But hey in practice it doesn't even work for gmail->gmail when the
moon howling is too bad :-)
-Daniel
>
>>
>> </rant>
>>
>> Acked-by: Daniel Vetter <[email protected]>
>
> Thanks, pushed to -misc-next-fixes
>
> Sean
>
>> > W: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-misc.html
>> > S: Maintained
>> > T: git git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm-misc
>> > --
>> > Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dri-devel mailing list
>> > [email protected]
>> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Vetter
>> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
>> http://blog.ffwll.ch
>
> --
> Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
> _______________________________________________
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> [email protected]
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
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Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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