2021-04-28 13:46:34

by Greg Kroah-Hartman

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
>
> This change is in follow up to
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
>
> Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>

Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?

That's who you should take suggestions from :)

thanks,

greg k-h


2021-04-28 13:48:03

by Anupama K Patil

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On 21/04/28 01:11PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> > from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> >
> > This change is in follow up to
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> > and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> >
> > Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> > Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
>
> Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
>
> That's who you should take suggestions from :)
>
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h

Leon said he thinks it is unsupported (I've also cc'd him). So, I've sent this patch
to get the feedback from the maintainer.

Thanks,
Anupama

2021-04-28 13:49:01

by Leon Romanovsky

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 05:10:57PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> On 21/04/28 01:11PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > > isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> > > from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> > >
> > > This change is in follow up to
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> > > Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
> >
> > Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
> >
> > That's who you should take suggestions from :)
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > greg k-h
>
> Leon said he thinks it is unsupported (I've also cc'd him). So, I've sent this patch
> to get the feedback from the maintainer.

Leon said something different.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#m6c837180c8d6496d5bcbb8526e274c4239844be0
------
> If changes to ISA code aren't welcomed, should these be marked obsolete in the MAINTIANERS file?

I think so, but think that "Odd Fixes" better describes that Rafael wrote.
------

>
> Thanks,
> Anupama

2021-04-28 13:49:32

by Anupama K Patil

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On 21/04/28 02:48PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 05:10:57PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > On 21/04/28 01:11PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > > > isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> > > > from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> > > >
> > > > This change is in follow up to
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > > and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > >
> > > > Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
> > >
> > > That's who you should take suggestions from :)
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > greg k-h
> >
> > Leon said he thinks it is unsupported (I've also cc'd him). So, I've sent this patch
> > to get the feedback from the maintainer.
>
> Leon said something different.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#m6c837180c8d6496d5bcbb8526e274c4239844be0
> ------
> > If changes to ISA code aren't welcomed, should these be marked obsolete in the MAINTIANERS file?
>
> I think so, but think that "Odd Fixes" better describes that Rafael wrote.
> ------
Sorry about that! but does checkpatch tell people not to send patches if it's 'Odd fixes'?
Should I wait for the maintainer's reply before doing anything else?
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Anupama

2021-04-28 13:49:34

by Jaroslav Kysela

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

Dne 28. 04. 21 v 13:11 Greg KH napsal(a):
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
>> isapnp code is very old and according to this link
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
>> from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
>>
>> This change is in follow up to
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
>> and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
>>
>> Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
>> Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
>
> Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?

I've no idea, if there're any users at the time, but there are many drivers
which depend on this code.

I'll try to reply to patch threads.

Jaroslav

--
Jaroslav Kysela <[email protected]>
Linux Sound Maintainer; ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc.

2021-04-28 13:50:04

by Leon Romanovsky

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 02:17:00PM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> Dne 28. 04. 21 v 13:11 Greg KH napsal(a):
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> >> isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> >> from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> >>
> >> This change is in follow up to
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> >> and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> >>
> >> Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> >> Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
> >
> > Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
>
> I've no idea, if there're any users at the time, but there are many drivers
> which depend on this code.

IMHO, this is exactly "Odd fixes" - code not really dead, but not really
alive too.

Thanks

>
> I'll try to reply to patch threads.
>
> Jaroslav
>
> --
> Jaroslav Kysela <[email protected]>
> Linux Sound Maintainer; ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc.

2021-04-28 13:51:07

by B K Karthik

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On 21/04/28 03:23PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 02:17:00PM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> > Dne 28. 04. 21 v 13:11 Greg KH napsal(a):
> > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > >> isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> > >> from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> > >>
> > >> This change is in follow up to
> > >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> > >> and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> > >>
> > >> Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
> >
> > I've no idea, if there're any users at the time, but there are many drivers
> > which depend on this code.
>
> IMHO, this is exactly "Odd fixes" - code not really dead, but not really
> alive too.

Okay! Does this have to come around as a v2 with 'Odd Fixes' instead of obsolete?
Or should that be a separate patch?

Or should we just wait for the maintainer's reply?
Sorry i'm a little confused.

thanks,

karthik

>
> Thanks
>
> >
> > I'll try to reply to patch threads.
> >
> > Jaroslav
> >
> > --
> > Jaroslav Kysela <[email protected]>
> > Linux Sound Maintainer; ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc.

2021-04-28 14:20:05

by Leon Romanovsky

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 05:43:29PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> On 21/04/28 02:48PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 05:10:57PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > > On 21/04/28 01:11PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > > > > isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> > > > > from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> > > > >
> > > > > This change is in follow up to
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > > > and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
> > > >
> > > > That's who you should take suggestions from :)
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > greg k-h
> > >
> > > Leon said he thinks it is unsupported (I've also cc'd him). So, I've sent this patch
> > > to get the feedback from the maintainer.
> >
> > Leon said something different.
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#m6c837180c8d6496d5bcbb8526e274c4239844be0
> > ------
> > > If changes to ISA code aren't welcomed, should these be marked obsolete in the MAINTIANERS file?
> >
> > I think so, but think that "Odd Fixes" better describes that Rafael wrote.
> > ------
> Sorry about that! but does checkpatch tell people not to send patches if it's 'Odd fixes'?

I don't think so, but people should check MAINTIANERS file before they
send patches and it has an explanation what "Odd fixes" means.

> Should I wait for the maintainer's reply before doing anything else?

Yes, please

> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anupama

2021-04-28 14:46:31

by Rafael J. Wysocki

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: mark isapnp as obsolete

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 2:32 PM B K Karthik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 21/04/28 03:23PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 02:17:00PM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> > > Dne 28. 04. 21 v 13:11 Greg KH napsal(a):
> > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:35:36PM +0530, Anupama K Patil wrote:
> > > >> isapnp code is very old and according to this link
> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play#Specifications
> > > >> from Wikipedia, even Windows Vista disabled ISA PnP by default.
> > > >>
> > > >> This change is in follow up to
> > > >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210422180322.7wlyg63kv3n2k6id@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > >> and https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210424194301.jmsqpycvsm7izbk3@ubuntu/T/#u
> > > >>
> > > >> Suggested-by: B K Karthik <[email protected]>
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Anupama K Patil <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > Has the maintainer said this is unsupported?
> > >
> > > I've no idea, if there're any users at the time, but there are many drivers
> > > which depend on this code.
> >
> > IMHO, this is exactly "Odd fixes" - code not really dead, but not really
> > alive too.
>
> Okay! Does this have to come around as a v2 with 'Odd Fixes' instead of obsolete?
> Or should that be a separate patch?
>
> Or should we just wait for the maintainer's reply?
> Sorry i'm a little confused.

I don't think that the MAINTAINERS entry needs to be updated.

Technically, this code is maintained, but because the availability of
systems on which to test changes is kind of limited, intrusive
functional changes in it should better be avoided.

Thanks!