2024-02-12 21:32:04

by Saravana Kannan

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Subject: [PATCH v2 0/4] Add post-init-supplier binding to improve suspend/resume stability

This patch series adds a "post-init-supplier" device tree binding that
can be used to break dependency cycles in device tree and enforce a more
determinstic probe/suspend/resume order. This will also improve the
stability of global async probing and async suspend/resume and allow us
to enable them more easily. Yet another step away from playing initcall
chicken with probing and step towards fully async probing and
suspend/resume.

Patch 3 (the binding docunentation) provide a lot more details and examples.

v1->v2:
- Addressed Documentation/commit text errors pointed out by Rob
- Reordered MAINTAINERS chunk as pointed out by Krzysztof

Saravana Kannan (4):
driver core: Adds flags param to fwnode_link_add()
driver core: Add FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE to completely ignore a fwnode link
dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property
of: property: fw_devlink: Add support for "post-init-supplier"
property

.../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
drivers/base/core.c | 14 ++-
drivers/firmware/efi/sysfb_efi.c | 2 +-
drivers/of/property.c | 17 ++-
include/linux/fwnode.h | 5 +-
6 files changed, 138 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml

--
2.43.0.687.g38aa6559b0-goog



2024-02-12 21:32:19

by Saravana Kannan

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Subject: [PATCH v2 1/4] driver core: Adds flags param to fwnode_link_add()

Allow the callers to set fwnode link flags when adding fwnode links.

Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
---
drivers/base/core.c | 5 +++--
drivers/firmware/efi/sysfb_efi.c | 2 +-
drivers/of/property.c | 2 +-
include/linux/fwnode.h | 3 ++-
4 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/base/core.c b/drivers/base/core.c
index 14d46af40f9a..33055001e08e 100644
--- a/drivers/base/core.c
+++ b/drivers/base/core.c
@@ -92,12 +92,13 @@ static int __fwnode_link_add(struct fwnode_handle *con,
return 0;
}

-int fwnode_link_add(struct fwnode_handle *con, struct fwnode_handle *sup)
+int fwnode_link_add(struct fwnode_handle *con, struct fwnode_handle *sup,
+ u8 flags)
{
int ret;

mutex_lock(&fwnode_link_lock);
- ret = __fwnode_link_add(con, sup, 0);
+ ret = __fwnode_link_add(con, sup, flags);
mutex_unlock(&fwnode_link_lock);
return ret;
}
diff --git a/drivers/firmware/efi/sysfb_efi.c b/drivers/firmware/efi/sysfb_efi.c
index 456d0e5eaf78..cc807ed35aed 100644
--- a/drivers/firmware/efi/sysfb_efi.c
+++ b/drivers/firmware/efi/sysfb_efi.c
@@ -336,7 +336,7 @@ static int efifb_add_links(struct fwnode_handle *fwnode)
if (!sup_np)
return 0;

- fwnode_link_add(fwnode, of_fwnode_handle(sup_np));
+ fwnode_link_add(fwnode, of_fwnode_handle(sup_np), 0);
of_node_put(sup_np);

return 0;
diff --git a/drivers/of/property.c b/drivers/of/property.c
index 39a3ee1dfb58..751c11a28f33 100644
--- a/drivers/of/property.c
+++ b/drivers/of/property.c
@@ -1085,7 +1085,7 @@ static void of_link_to_phandle(struct device_node *con_np,
tmp_np = of_get_next_parent(tmp_np);
}

- fwnode_link_add(of_fwnode_handle(con_np), of_fwnode_handle(sup_np));
+ fwnode_link_add(of_fwnode_handle(con_np), of_fwnode_handle(sup_np), 0);
}

/**
diff --git a/include/linux/fwnode.h b/include/linux/fwnode.h
index 2a72f55d26eb..c964749953e3 100644
--- a/include/linux/fwnode.h
+++ b/include/linux/fwnode.h
@@ -210,7 +210,8 @@ static inline void fwnode_dev_initialized(struct fwnode_handle *fwnode,
}

extern bool fw_devlink_is_strict(void);
-int fwnode_link_add(struct fwnode_handle *con, struct fwnode_handle *sup);
+int fwnode_link_add(struct fwnode_handle *con, struct fwnode_handle *sup,
+ u8 flags);
void fwnode_links_purge(struct fwnode_handle *fwnode);
void fw_devlink_purge_absent_suppliers(struct fwnode_handle *fwnode);

--
2.43.0.687.g38aa6559b0-goog


2024-02-12 21:32:38

by Saravana Kannan

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Subject: [PATCH v2 2/4] driver core: Add FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE to completely ignore a fwnode link

A fwnode link between specific supplier-consumer fwnodes can be added
multiple times for multiple reasons. If that dependency doesn't exist,
deleting the fwnode link once doesn't guarantee that it won't get created
again.

So, add FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE flag to mark a fwnode link as one that needs to
be completely ignored. Since a fwnode link's flags is an OR of all the
flags passed to all the fwnode_link_add() calls to create that specific
fwnode link, the FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE flag is preserved and can be used to
mark a fwnode link as on that need to be completely ignored until it is
deleted.

Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
---
drivers/base/core.c | 9 ++++++++-
include/linux/fwnode.h | 2 ++
2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/drivers/base/core.c b/drivers/base/core.c
index 33055001e08e..bd762d90dac0 100644
--- a/drivers/base/core.c
+++ b/drivers/base/core.c
@@ -1010,7 +1010,8 @@ static struct fwnode_handle *fwnode_links_check_suppliers(
return NULL;

list_for_each_entry(link, &fwnode->suppliers, c_hook)
- if (!(link->flags & FWLINK_FLAG_CYCLE))
+ if (!(link->flags &
+ (FWLINK_FLAG_CYCLE | FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE)))
return link->supplier;

return NULL;
@@ -1960,6 +1961,9 @@ static bool __fw_devlink_relax_cycles(struct device *con,
}

list_for_each_entry(link, &sup_handle->suppliers, c_hook) {
+ if (link->flags & FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE)
+ continue;
+
if (__fw_devlink_relax_cycles(con, link->supplier)) {
__fwnode_link_cycle(link);
ret = true;
@@ -2033,6 +2037,9 @@ static int fw_devlink_create_devlink(struct device *con,
int ret = 0;
u32 flags;

+ if (link->flags & FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE)
+ return 0;
+
if (con->fwnode == link->consumer)
flags = fw_devlink_get_flags(link->flags);
else
diff --git a/include/linux/fwnode.h b/include/linux/fwnode.h
index c964749953e3..21699eee9641 100644
--- a/include/linux/fwnode.h
+++ b/include/linux/fwnode.h
@@ -53,8 +53,10 @@ struct fwnode_handle {
* fwnode link flags
*
* CYCLE: The fwnode link is part of a cycle. Don't defer probe.
+ * IGNORE: Completely ignore this link, even during cycle detection.
*/
#define FWLINK_FLAG_CYCLE BIT(0)
+#define FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE BIT(1)

struct fwnode_link {
struct fwnode_handle *supplier;
--
2.43.0.687.g38aa6559b0-goog


2024-02-12 21:32:53

by Saravana Kannan

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Subject: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

The post-init-supplier property can be used to break a dependency cycle by
marking some supplier(s) as a post device initialization supplier(s). This
allows an OS to do a better job at ordering initialization and
suspend/resume of the devices in a dependency cycle.

Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
---
.../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
2 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..aab75b667259
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
@@ -0,0 +1,101 @@
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
+# Copyright (c) 2020, Google LLC. All rights reserved.
+%YAML 1.2
+---
+$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/post-init-supplier.yaml#
+$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
+
+title: Post device initialization supplier
+
+maintainers:
+ - Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
+
+description: |
+ This property is used to indicate that the device(s) pointed to by the
+ property are not needed for the initialization of the device that lists this
+ property. This property is meaningful only when pointing to direct suppliers
+ of a device that are pointed to by other properties in the device.
+
+ A device can list its suppliers in devicetree using one or more of the
+ standard devicetree bindings. By default, it would be safe to assume the
+ supplier device can be initialized before the consumer device is initialized.
+
+ However, that assumption cannot be made when there are cyclic dependencies
+ between devices. Since each device is a supplier (directly or indirectly) of
+ the others in the cycle, there is no guaranteed safe order for initializing
+ the devices in a cycle. We can try to initialize them in an arbitrary order
+ and eventually successfully initialize all of them, but that doesn't always
+ work well.
+
+ For example, say,
+ * The device tree has the following cyclic dependency X -> Y -> Z -> X (where
+ -> denotes "depends on").
+ * But X is not needed to fully initialize Z (X might be needed only when a
+ specific functionality is requested post initialization).
+
+ If all the other -> are mandatory initialization dependencies, then trying to
+ initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) will always eventually end
+ up with the devices being initialized in the order Z, Y and X.
+
+ However, if Y is an optional supplier for X (where X provides limited
+ functionality when Y is not initialized and providing its services), then
+ trying to initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) could end up with
+ the devices being initialized in the following order:
+
+ * Z, Y and X - All devices provide full functionality
+ * Z, X and Y - X provides partial functionality
+ * X, Z and Y - X provides partial functionality
+
+ However, we always want to initialize the devices in the order Z, Y and X
+ since that provides the full functionality without interruptions.
+
+ One alternate option that might be suggested is to have the driver for X
+ notice that Y became available at a later point and adjust the functionality
+ it provides. However, other userspace applications could have started using X
+ with the limited functionality before Y was available and it might not be
+ possible to transparently transition X or the users of X to full
+ functionality while X is in use.
+
+ Similarly, when it comes to suspend (resume) ordering, it's unclear which
+ device in a dependency cycle needs to be suspended/resumed first and trying
+ arbitrary orders can result in system crashes or instability.
+
+ Explicitly calling out which link in a cycle needs to be broken when
+ determining the order, simplifies things a lot, improves efficiency, makes
+ the behavior more deterministic and maximizes the functionality that can be
+ provided without interruption.
+
+ This property is used to provide this additional information between devices
+ in a cycle by telling which supplier(s) is not needed for initializing the
+ device that lists this property.
+
+ In the example above, Z would list X as a post-init-supplier and the
+ initialization dependency would become X -> Y -> Z -/-> X. So the best order
+ to initialize them become clear: Z, Y and then X.
+
+select: true
+properties:
+ post-init-supplier:
+ # One or more suppliers can be marked as post initialization supplier
+ description:
+ List of phandles to suppliers that are not needed for initializing or
+ resuming this device.
+ $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
+ items:
+ maxItems: 1
+
+examples:
+ - |
+ gcc: clock-controller@1000 {
+ compatible = "vendor,soc4-gcc", "vendor,soc1-gcc";
+ reg = <0x1000 0x80>;
+ clocks = <&dispcc 0x1>
+ #clock-cells = <1>;
+ post-init-supplier = <&dispcc>;
+ };
+ dispcc: clock-controller@2000 {
+ compatible = "vendor,soc4-dispcc", "vendor,soc1-dispcc";
+ reg = <0x2000 0x80>;
+ clocks = <&gcc 0xdd>
+ #clock-cells = <1>;
+ };
diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index 3dfe7ea25320..79719af714be 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -6055,12 +6055,6 @@ S: Maintained
F: drivers/base/devcoredump.c
F: include/linux/devcoredump.h

-DEVICE DEPENDENCY HELPER SCRIPT
-M: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
-L: [email protected]
-S: Maintained
-F: scripts/dev-needs.sh
-
DEVICE DIRECT ACCESS (DAX)
M: Dan Williams <[email protected]>
M: Vishal Verma <[email protected]>
@@ -8295,6 +8289,13 @@ F: include/linux/firewire.h
F: include/uapi/linux/firewire*.h
F: tools/firewire/

+FIRMWARE DEVICE LINK (fw_devlink)
+M: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
+L: [email protected]
+S: Maintained
+F: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
+F: scripts/dev-needs.sh
+
FIRMWARE FRAMEWORK FOR ARMV8-A
M: Sudeep Holla <[email protected]>
L: [email protected] (moderated for non-subscribers)
--
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2024-02-12 21:33:10

by Saravana Kannan

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Subject: [PATCH v2 4/4] of: property: fw_devlink: Add support for "post-init-supplier" property

Add support for this property so that dependency cycles can be broken and
fw_devlink can do better probe/suspend/resume ordering between devices in a
dependency cycle.

Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
---
drivers/of/property.c | 17 ++++++++++++++---
1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/of/property.c b/drivers/of/property.c
index 751c11a28f33..dce451161c99 100644
--- a/drivers/of/property.c
+++ b/drivers/of/property.c
@@ -1066,7 +1066,8 @@ of_fwnode_device_get_match_data(const struct fwnode_handle *fwnode,
}

static void of_link_to_phandle(struct device_node *con_np,
- struct device_node *sup_np)
+ struct device_node *sup_np,
+ u8 flags)
{
struct device_node *tmp_np = of_node_get(sup_np);

@@ -1085,7 +1086,8 @@ static void of_link_to_phandle(struct device_node *con_np,
tmp_np = of_get_next_parent(tmp_np);
}

- fwnode_link_add(of_fwnode_handle(con_np), of_fwnode_handle(sup_np), 0);
+ fwnode_link_add(of_fwnode_handle(con_np), of_fwnode_handle(sup_np),
+ flags);
}

/**
@@ -1198,6 +1200,8 @@ static struct device_node *parse_##fname(struct device_node *np, \
* to a struct device, implement this ops so fw_devlink can use it
* to find the true consumer.
* @optional: Describes whether a supplier is mandatory or not
+ * @fwlink_flags: Optional fwnode link flags to use when creating a fwnode link
+ * for this property.
*
* Returns:
* parse_prop() return values are
@@ -1210,6 +1214,7 @@ struct supplier_bindings {
const char *prop_name, int index);
struct device_node *(*get_con_dev)(struct device_node *np);
bool optional;
+ u8 fwlink_flags;
};

DEFINE_SIMPLE_PROP(clocks, "clocks", "#clock-cells")
@@ -1240,6 +1245,7 @@ DEFINE_SIMPLE_PROP(leds, "leds", NULL)
DEFINE_SIMPLE_PROP(backlight, "backlight", NULL)
DEFINE_SIMPLE_PROP(panel, "panel", NULL)
DEFINE_SIMPLE_PROP(msi_parent, "msi-parent", "#msi-cells")
+DEFINE_SIMPLE_PROP(post_init_supplier, "post-init-supplier", NULL)
DEFINE_SUFFIX_PROP(regulators, "-supply", NULL)
DEFINE_SUFFIX_PROP(gpio, "-gpio", "#gpio-cells")

@@ -1349,6 +1355,10 @@ static const struct supplier_bindings of_supplier_bindings[] = {
{ .parse_prop = parse_regulators, },
{ .parse_prop = parse_gpio, },
{ .parse_prop = parse_gpios, },
+ {
+ .parse_prop = parse_post_init_supplier,
+ .fwlink_flags = FWLINK_FLAG_IGNORE,
+ },
{}
};

@@ -1393,7 +1403,8 @@ static int of_link_property(struct device_node *con_np, const char *prop_name)
: of_node_get(con_np);
matched = true;
i++;
- of_link_to_phandle(con_dev_np, phandle);
+ of_link_to_phandle(con_dev_np, phandle,
+ s->fwlink_flags);
of_node_put(phandle);
of_node_put(con_dev_np);
}
--
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2024-02-12 22:17:29

by Rob Herring (Arm)

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property


On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 13:31:44 -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> The post-init-supplier property can be used to break a dependency cycle by
> marking some supplier(s) as a post device initialization supplier(s). This
> allows an OS to do a better job at ordering initialization and
> suspend/resume of the devices in a dependency cycle.
>
> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> ---
> .../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
> MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
> 2 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
>

My bot found errors running 'make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check'
on your patch (DT_CHECKER_FLAGS is new in v5.13):

yamllint warnings/errors:
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: [error] syntax error: mapping values are not allowed here (syntax)

dtschema/dtc warnings/errors:
make[2]: *** Deleting file 'Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts'
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: mapping values are not allowed in this context
make[2]: *** [Documentation/devicetree/bindings/Makefile:26: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: mapping values are not allowed in this context
/builds/robherring/dt-review-ci/linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml: ignoring, error parsing file
make[1]: *** [/builds/robherring/dt-review-ci/linux/Makefile:1428: dt_binding_check] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:240: __sub-make] Error 2

doc reference errors (make refcheckdocs):

See https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/devicetree-bindings/patch/[email protected]

The base for the series is generally the latest rc1. A different dependency
should be noted in *this* patch.

If you already ran 'make dt_binding_check' and didn't see the above
error(s), then make sure 'yamllint' is installed and dt-schema is up to
date:

pip3 install dtschema --upgrade

Please check and re-submit after running the above command yourself. Note
that DT_SCHEMA_FILES can be set to your schema file to speed up checking
your schema. However, it must be unset to test all examples with your schema.


2024-02-14 19:14:06

by Conor Dooley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 06:48:59PM +0000, Conor Dooley wrote:

> > + post-init-supplier:
> > + # One or more suppliers can be marked as post initialization supplier

Also, this should likely be pluralised, to match "clocks" "resets"
"interrupts" etc.

> > + description:
> > + List of phandles to suppliers that are not needed for initializing or
> > + resuming this device.
> > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
> > + items:
> > + maxItems: 1


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2024-02-14 19:23:25

by Conor Dooley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 01:31:44PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> The post-init-supplier property can be used to break a dependency cycle by
> marking some supplier(s) as a post device initialization supplier(s). This
> allows an OS to do a better job at ordering initialization and
> suspend/resume of the devices in a dependency cycle.
>
> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> ---
> .../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
> MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
> 2 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..aab75b667259
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> +# Copyright (c) 2020, Google LLC. All rights reserved.
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/post-init-supplier.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: Post device initialization supplier
> +
> +maintainers:
> + - Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> +
> +description: |
> + This property is used to indicate that the device(s) pointed to by the
> + property are not needed for the initialization of the device that lists this
> + property.

> This property is meaningful only when pointing to direct suppliers
> + of a device that are pointed to by other properties in the device.

I don't think this sentence makes sense, or at least it is not easy to
parse. It implies that it can "point to" other properties too - but
that's not the case. It is only valid to "point to" these suppliers.
I'd drop this entirely.

> +
> + A device can list its suppliers in devicetree using one or more of the
> + standard devicetree bindings. By default, it would be safe to assume the
> + supplier device can be initialized before the consumer device is initialized.

"it would be safe to assume" seems odd wording to me - I feel like the
default is stronger than "safe to assume". I'd just drop the "would be
safe to assume and replace with "is assumed".

> +
> + However, that assumption cannot be made when there are cyclic dependencies
> + between devices. Since each device is a supplier (directly or indirectly) of
> + the others in the cycle, there is no guaranteed safe order for initializing
> + the devices in a cycle. We can try to initialize them in an arbitrary order
> + and eventually successfully initialize all of them, but that doesn't always
> + work well.
> +
> + For example, say,
> + * The device tree has the following cyclic dependency X -> Y -> Z -> X (where
> + -> denotes "depends on").
> + * But X is not needed to fully initialize Z (X might be needed only when a
> + specific functionality is requested post initialization).
> +
> + If all the other -> are mandatory initialization dependencies, then trying to
> + initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) will always eventually end
> + up with the devices being initialized in the order Z, Y and X.
> +
> + However, if Y is an optional supplier for X (where X provides limited
> + functionality when Y is not initialized and providing its services), then
> + trying to initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) could end up with
> + the devices being initialized in the following order:
> +
> + * Z, Y and X - All devices provide full functionality
> + * Z, X and Y - X provides partial functionality
> + * X, Z and Y - X provides partial functionality
> +
> + However, we always want to initialize the devices in the order Z, Y and X
> + since that provides the full functionality without interruptions.
> +
> + One alternate option that might be suggested is to have the driver for X
> + notice that Y became available at a later point and adjust the functionality
> + it provides. However, other userspace applications could have started using X
> + with the limited functionality before Y was available and it might not be
> + possible to transparently transition X or the users of X to full
> + functionality while X is in use.
> +
> + Similarly, when it comes to suspend (resume) ordering, it's unclear which
> + device in a dependency cycle needs to be suspended/resumed first and trying
> + arbitrary orders can result in system crashes or instability.
> +
> + Explicitly calling out which link in a cycle needs to be broken when
> + determining the order, simplifies things a lot, improves efficiency, makes
> + the behavior more deterministic and maximizes the functionality that can be
> + provided without interruption.
> +
> + This property is used to provide this additional information between devices
> + in a cycle by telling which supplier(s) is not needed for initializing the
> + device that lists this property.
> +
> + In the example above, Z would list X as a post-init-supplier and the
> + initialization dependency would become X -> Y -> Z -/-> X. So the best order
> + to initialize them become clear: Z, Y and then X.

Otherwise, I think this is a great description, describing the use case
well :)

> +
> +select: true
> +properties:
> + post-init-supplier:
> + # One or more suppliers can be marked as post initialization supplier
> + description:
> + List of phandles to suppliers that are not needed for initializing or
> + resuming this device.
> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
> + items:
> + maxItems: 1

Rob's bot rightfully complains here about invalid syntax. What you
actually want to enforce here is any number of device phandles, but
these phandles all contain only the label and no indices etc, right?

> +
> +examples:
> + - |
> + gcc: clock-controller@1000 {
> + compatible = "vendor,soc4-gcc", "vendor,soc1-gcc";
> + reg = <0x1000 0x80>;
> + clocks = <&dispcc 0x1>

This clearly was never tested, Rob's bot warnings aside. You're missing
a ; at EOL here and with the other clock below.

Cheers,
Conor.

> + #clock-cells = <1>;
> + post-init-supplier = <&dispcc>;
> + };
> + dispcc: clock-controller@2000 {
> + compatible = "vendor,soc4-dispcc", "vendor,soc1-dispcc";
> + reg = <0x2000 0x80>;
> + clocks = <&gcc 0xdd>
> + #clock-cells = <1>;
> + };


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by Conor Dooley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 03:32:31PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> Hi Conon,
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 10:49 AM Conor Dooley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 01:31:44PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > The post-init-supplier property can be used to break a dependency cycle by
> > > marking some supplier(s) as a post device initialization supplier(s). This
> > > allows an OS to do a better job at ordering initialization and
> > > suspend/resume of the devices in a dependency cycle.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> > > ---
> > > .../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
> > > 2 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..aab75b667259
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > +# Copyright (c) 2020, Google LLC. All rights reserved.
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/post-init-supplier.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Post device initialization supplier
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > + - Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> > > +
> > > +description: |
> > > + This property is used to indicate that the device(s) pointed to by the
> > > + property are not needed for the initialization of the device that lists this
> > > + property.
> >
> > > This property is meaningful only when pointing to direct suppliers
> > > + of a device that are pointed to by other properties in the device.
> >
> > I don't think this sentence makes sense, or at least it is not easy to
> > parse. It implies that it can "point to" other properties too
>
> I don't see how this sentence implies this.

Because, to me, it reads as if you can put extra stuff in here that will
be ignored if not "pointed to" by another property. The word
"meaningful" is what implies that you can.

> But open to suggestions on
> how to reword it. I don't want to drop this line entirely though
> because I'm trying to make it clear that this doesn't make a device
> (that's not previously a supplier) into a supplier. It only down
> grades an existing supplier to a post device initialization supplier.

If you wanna keep it, I would just go for what you said in this
response - that this property does not make devices into suppliers and
is only to mark existing suppliers as post-init. I think that rules out
putting other devices in there.

> > - but
> > that's not the case. It is only valid to "point to" these suppliers.
> > I'd drop this entirely.
>
> >
> > > +
> > > + A device can list its suppliers in devicetree using one or more of the
> > > + standard devicetree bindings. By default, it would be safe to assume the
> > > + supplier device can be initialized before the consumer device is initialized.
> >
> > "it would be safe to assume" seems odd wording to me - I feel like the
> > default is stronger than "safe to assume". I'd just drop the "would be
> > safe to assume and replace with "is assumed".
>
> Sounds good.
>
> >
> > > +
> > > + However, that assumption cannot be made when there are cyclic dependencies
> > > + between devices. Since each device is a supplier (directly or indirectly) of
> > > + the others in the cycle, there is no guaranteed safe order for initializing
> > > + the devices in a cycle. We can try to initialize them in an arbitrary order
> > > + and eventually successfully initialize all of them, but that doesn't always
> > > + work well.
> > > +
> > > + For example, say,
> > > + * The device tree has the following cyclic dependency X -> Y -> Z -> X (where
> > > + -> denotes "depends on").
> > > + * But X is not needed to fully initialize Z (X might be needed only when a
> > > + specific functionality is requested post initialization).
> > > +
> > > + If all the other -> are mandatory initialization dependencies, then trying to
> > > + initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) will always eventually end
> > > + up with the devices being initialized in the order Z, Y and X.
> > > +
> > > + However, if Y is an optional supplier for X (where X provides limited
> > > + functionality when Y is not initialized and providing its services), then
> > > + trying to initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) could end up with
> > > + the devices being initialized in the following order:
> > > +
> > > + * Z, Y and X - All devices provide full functionality
> > > + * Z, X and Y - X provides partial functionality
> > > + * X, Z and Y - X provides partial functionality
> > > +
> > > + However, we always want to initialize the devices in the order Z, Y and X
> > > + since that provides the full functionality without interruptions.
> > > +
> > > + One alternate option that might be suggested is to have the driver for X
> > > + notice that Y became available at a later point and adjust the functionality
> > > + it provides. However, other userspace applications could have started using X
> > > + with the limited functionality before Y was available and it might not be
> > > + possible to transparently transition X or the users of X to full
> > > + functionality while X is in use.
> > > +
> > > + Similarly, when it comes to suspend (resume) ordering, it's unclear which
> > > + device in a dependency cycle needs to be suspended/resumed first and trying
> > > + arbitrary orders can result in system crashes or instability.
> > > +
> > > + Explicitly calling out which link in a cycle needs to be broken when
> > > + determining the order, simplifies things a lot, improves efficiency, makes
> > > + the behavior more deterministic and maximizes the functionality that can be
> > > + provided without interruption.
> > > +
> > > + This property is used to provide this additional information between devices
> > > + in a cycle by telling which supplier(s) is not needed for initializing the
> > > + device that lists this property.
> > > +
> > > + In the example above, Z would list X as a post-init-supplier and the
> > > + initialization dependency would become X -> Y -> Z -/-> X. So the best order
> > > + to initialize them become clear: Z, Y and then X.
> >
> > Otherwise, I think this is a great description, describing the use case
> > well :)
>
> Thanks! I always spend more time writing documentation and commit text
> than the time I spend writing code.
>
> >
> > > +
> > > +select: true
> > > +properties:
> > > + post-init-supplier:
>
> [Merging your other email here]
>
> > Also, this should likely be pluralised, to match "clocks" "resets"
> > "interrupts" etc.
>
> Good point. Done.
>
> > > + # One or more suppliers can be marked as post initialization supplier
> > > + description:
> > > + List of phandles to suppliers that are not needed for initializing or
> > > + resuming this device.
> > > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
> > > + items:
> > > + maxItems: 1
> >
> > Rob's bot rightfully complains here about invalid syntax.
>
> I added these two lines based on Rob's feedback. Is the indentation
> that's wrong?

Aye, both items: and maxItems: need to lose a level of indent. That
said, its not actually restricting anything. I fixed it up locally and
you can put as many elements as you like into each phandle and it does
not care. Maybe Rob can tell what is going wrong there..

>
> Yeah, I'm trying to run the dts checker, but I haven't be able to get
> it to work on my end. See my email to Rob on the v1 series about this.
>
> $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
>
> The best I could get out of it is a bunch of error reports on other
> files and then:
> ...
> <snip>/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> ignoring, error parsing file
> ...

Yup, that is about right, although you snipped out the actual complaint.

>
> I also tried to use DT_SCHEMA_FILES so I can only test this one file,
> but that wasn't working either:
>
> $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
> DT_SCHEMA_FILES=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml
> or
> $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check DT_SCHEMA_FILES=<path to
> the .patch file>
>
> Results in this error early on in the output:
> ...
> usage: yamllint [-h] [-] [-c CONFIG_FILE | -d CONFIG_DATA]
> [--list-files] [-f {parsable,standard,colored,github,auto}] [-s]
> [--no-warnings] [-v] [FILE_OR_DIR ...]
> yamllint: error: one of the arguments FILE_OR_DIR - is required
> ...
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> ignoring, error parsing file
> ...

That is part of the actual complaint:

make dt_binding_check W=1 -j 30 DT_SCHEMA_FILES=post-init-supplier.yaml
LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: mapping values are not allowed here
make[2]: *** [Documentation/devicetree/bindings/Makefile:26: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts] Error 1
make[2]: *** Deleting file 'Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts'
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
./Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: [error] syntax error: mapping values are not allowed here (syntax)
CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
./Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: mapping values are not allowed here
SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
/stuff/linux-dt/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml: ignoring, error parsing file
make[1]: *** [/stuff/linux-dt/Makefile:1432: dt_binding_check] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:240: __sub-make] Error 2


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by Krzysztof Kozlowski

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On 21/02/2024 05:07, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>
>> https://www.linaro.org/blog/tips-and-tricks-for-validating-devicetree-sources-with-the-devicetree-schema/
>>
>> I assume you develop on some older trees, because both next and v6.8-rc1
>> work... or standard issues: old dtschema, old yamllint.
>>
>> I am afraid you do it for some old Android kernel... :(
>
> No, I always develop on Linus's tree and test it on an android kernel
> that's behind Linus's tree by a month or so.
>
> My yamllint version is 1.32.0, but until 2 weeks ago the latest
> yamllint version was 1.33.0.
>
> And dt-schema is 2022.08.2-5 and I had to revert this from Linus's
> tree to get it to work:
> b32dcf23a03e dt-bindings: Drop kernel copy of common reserved-memory bindings
>
> Unfortunately, AFAIK, I don't have permissions to change the package
> repo, so can't really install a newer version.

pip packages are by default per user, so why you cannot install updated
dtschema?

Best regards,
Krzysztof


2024-02-21 14:32:33

by Rob Herring (Arm)

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 01:31:44PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> The post-init-supplier property can be used to break a dependency cycle by
> marking some supplier(s) as a post device initialization supplier(s). This
> allows an OS to do a better job at ordering initialization and
> suspend/resume of the devices in a dependency cycle.
>
> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> ---
> .../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
> MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
> 2 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..aab75b667259
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> +# Copyright (c) 2020, Google LLC. All rights reserved.
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/post-init-supplier.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: Post device initialization supplier
> +
> +maintainers:
> + - Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> +
> +description: |
> + This property is used to indicate that the device(s) pointed to by the
> + property are not needed for the initialization of the device that lists this
> + property. This property is meaningful only when pointing to direct suppliers
> + of a device that are pointed to by other properties in the device.
> +
> + A device can list its suppliers in devicetree using one or more of the
> + standard devicetree bindings. By default, it would be safe to assume the
> + supplier device can be initialized before the consumer device is initialized.
> +
> + However, that assumption cannot be made when there are cyclic dependencies
> + between devices. Since each device is a supplier (directly or indirectly) of
> + the others in the cycle, there is no guaranteed safe order for initializing
> + the devices in a cycle. We can try to initialize them in an arbitrary order
> + and eventually successfully initialize all of them, but that doesn't always
> + work well.
> +
> + For example, say,
> + * The device tree has the following cyclic dependency X -> Y -> Z -> X (where
> + -> denotes "depends on").
> + * But X is not needed to fully initialize Z (X might be needed only when a
> + specific functionality is requested post initialization).
> +
> + If all the other -> are mandatory initialization dependencies, then trying to
> + initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) will always eventually end
> + up with the devices being initialized in the order Z, Y and X.
> +
> + However, if Y is an optional supplier for X (where X provides limited
> + functionality when Y is not initialized and providing its services), then
> + trying to initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) could end up with
> + the devices being initialized in the following order:
> +
> + * Z, Y and X - All devices provide full functionality
> + * Z, X and Y - X provides partial functionality
> + * X, Z and Y - X provides partial functionality
> +
> + However, we always want to initialize the devices in the order Z, Y and X
> + since that provides the full functionality without interruptions.
> +
> + One alternate option that might be suggested is to have the driver for X
> + notice that Y became available at a later point and adjust the functionality
> + it provides. However, other userspace applications could have started using X
> + with the limited functionality before Y was available and it might not be
> + possible to transparently transition X or the users of X to full
> + functionality while X is in use.
> +
> + Similarly, when it comes to suspend (resume) ordering, it's unclear which
> + device in a dependency cycle needs to be suspended/resumed first and trying
> + arbitrary orders can result in system crashes or instability.
> +
> + Explicitly calling out which link in a cycle needs to be broken when
> + determining the order, simplifies things a lot, improves efficiency, makes
> + the behavior more deterministic and maximizes the functionality that can be
> + provided without interruption.
> +
> + This property is used to provide this additional information between devices
> + in a cycle by telling which supplier(s) is not needed for initializing the
> + device that lists this property.
> +
> + In the example above, Z would list X as a post-init-supplier and the
> + initialization dependency would become X -> Y -> Z -/-> X. So the best order
> + to initialize them become clear: Z, Y and then X.
> +
> +select: true

blank line

> +properties:
> + post-init-supplier:

'supply' is already used for regulators. Let's make it
'post-init-providers'.

Rob

2024-02-21 19:34:28

by Conor Dooley

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 08:13:31PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> I made that fix and now I'm getting this:
> $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
> DT_SCHEMA_FILES=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml
> DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dts
> LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
> CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> 'oneOf' conditional failed, one must be fixed:
> 'unevaluatedProperties' is a required property
> 'additionalProperties' is a required property
> hint: Either unevaluatedProperties or additionalProperties
> must be present
> from schema $id: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tpm/ibm,vtpm.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema: properties
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema:
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/soc/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema: allOf: 0: then: properties: pinmux
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/lantiq,pef2256.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema: properties: lantiq,data-rate-bps
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema:
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,mprls0025pa.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal
> /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,hsc030pa.yaml:
> ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal

> DTC_CHK Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> /example-0/clock-controller@1000: failed to match any schema with
> compatible: ['vendor,soc4-gcc', 'vendor,soc1-gcc']
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> /example-0/clock-controller@1000: failed to match any schema with
> compatible: ['vendor,soc4-gcc', 'vendor,soc1-gcc']
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> /example-0/clock-controller@2000: failed to match any schema with
> compatible: ['vendor,soc4-dispcc', 'vendor,soc1-dispcc']
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> /example-0/clock-controller@2000: failed to match any schema with
> compatible: ['vendor,soc4-dispcc', 'vendor,soc1-dispcc']

FWIW, I don't see these or the other errors you see above. You really
need to get yourself a newer version of dt-schema, or else avoid
working on this using whatever castrated system google provides you with!

> But I guess the "oneOf" error is because the yaml is being treated as
> a description of a DT node and not a schema?

The oneOf is due to missing "additionalProperties: true" - As far as I
understand you need that regardless of whether this is going into
dt-schema or the kernel.


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by Saravana Kannan

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 11:34 AM Conor Dooley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 08:13:31PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > I made that fix and now I'm getting this:
> > $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
> > DT_SCHEMA_FILES=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliersyaml
> > DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.exampledts
> > LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
> > CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> > 'oneOf' conditional failed, one must be fixed:
> > 'unevaluatedProperties' is a required property
> > 'additionalProperties' is a required property
> > hint: Either unevaluatedProperties or additionalProperties
> > must be present
> > from schema $id: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tpm/ibm,vtpm.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema: properties
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema:
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/soc/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema: allOf: 0: then: properties: pinmux
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/lantiq,pef2256.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema: properties: lantiq,data-rate-bps
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema:
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,mprls0025pa.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,hsc030pa.yaml:
> > ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal
>
> > DTC_CHK Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.exampledtb
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> > /example-0/clock-controller@1000: failed to match any schema with
> > compatible: ['vendor,soc4-gcc', 'vendor,soc1-gcc']
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> > /example-0/clock-controller@1000: failed to match any schema with
> > compatible: ['vendor,soc4-gcc', 'vendor,soc1-gcc']
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> > /example-0/clock-controller@2000: failed to match any schema with
> > compatible: ['vendor,soc4-dispcc', 'vendor,soc1-dispcc']
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
> > /example-0/clock-controller@2000: failed to match any schema with
> > compatible: ['vendor,soc4-dispcc', 'vendor,soc1-dispcc']
>
> FWIW, I don't see these or the other errors you see above. You really
> need to get yourself a newer version of dt-schema, or else avoid
> working on this using whatever castrated system google provides you with!

Ok, finally found the workaround to updating these packages and the
output is a lot cleaner now.

> > But I guess the "oneOf" error is because the yaml is being treated as
> > a description of a DT node and not a schema?
>
> The oneOf is due to missing "additionalProperties: true" - As far as I
> understand you need that regardless of whether this is going into
> dt-schema or the kernel.

Ok, I added that and the errors go away. I'll send out a v3 and
hopefully Rob can pick it up.

-Saravana

2024-02-21 04:14:37

by Saravana Kannan

[permalink] [raw]
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 4:15 AM Conor Dooley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 03:32:31PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > Hi Conon,
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 10:49 AM Conor Dooley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 01:31:44PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > > The post-init-supplier property can be used to break a dependency cycle by
> > > > marking some supplier(s) as a post device initialization supplier(s). This
> > > > allows an OS to do a better job at ordering initialization and
> > > > suspend/resume of the devices in a dependency cycle.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> > > > ---
> > > > .../bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml | 101 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > MAINTAINERS | 13 +--
> > > > 2 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > > create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..aab75b667259
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@
> > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > +# Copyright (c) 2020, Google LLC. All rights reserved.
> > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > +---
> > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/post-init-supplier.yaml#
> > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > +
> > > > +title: Post device initialization supplier
> > > > +
> > > > +maintainers:
> > > > + - Saravana Kannan <[email protected]>
> > > > +
> > > > +description: |
> > > > + This property is used to indicate that the device(s) pointed to by the
> > > > + property are not needed for the initialization of the device that lists this
> > > > + property.
> > >
> > > > This property is meaningful only when pointing to direct suppliers
> > > > + of a device that are pointed to by other properties in the device.
> > >
> > > I don't think this sentence makes sense, or at least it is not easy to
> > > parse. It implies that it can "point to" other properties too
> >
> > I don't see how this sentence implies this.
>
> Because, to me, it reads as if you can put extra stuff in here that will
> be ignored if not "pointed to" by another property. The word
> "meaningful" is what implies that you can.
>
> > But open to suggestions on
> > how to reword it. I don't want to drop this line entirely though
> > because I'm trying to make it clear that this doesn't make a device
> > (that's not previously a supplier) into a supplier. It only down
> > grades an existing supplier to a post device initialization supplier.
>
> If you wanna keep it, I would just go for what you said in this
> response - that this property does not make devices into suppliers and
> is only to mark existing suppliers as post-init. I think that rules out
> putting other devices in there.

Sounds good.

> > > - but
> > > that's not the case. It is only valid to "point to" these suppliers.
> > > I'd drop this entirely.
> >
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > + A device can list its suppliers in devicetree using one or more of the
> > > > + standard devicetree bindings. By default, it would be safe to assume the
> > > > + supplier device can be initialized before the consumer device is initialized.
> > >
> > > "it would be safe to assume" seems odd wording to me - I feel like the
> > > default is stronger than "safe to assume". I'd just drop the "would be
> > > safe to assume and replace with "is assumed".
> >
> > Sounds good.
> >
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > + However, that assumption cannot be made when there are cyclic dependencies
> > > > + between devices. Since each device is a supplier (directly or indirectly) of
> > > > + the others in the cycle, there is no guaranteed safe order for initializing
> > > > + the devices in a cycle. We can try to initialize them in an arbitrary order
> > > > + and eventually successfully initialize all of them, but that doesn't always
> > > > + work well.
> > > > +
> > > > + For example, say,
> > > > + * The device tree has the following cyclic dependency X -> Y -> Z -> X (where
> > > > + -> denotes "depends on").
> > > > + * But X is not needed to fully initialize Z (X might be needed only when a
> > > > + specific functionality is requested post initialization).
> > > > +
> > > > + If all the other -> are mandatory initialization dependencies, then trying to
> > > > + initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) will always eventually end
> > > > + up with the devices being initialized in the order Z, Y and X.
> > > > +
> > > > + However, if Y is an optional supplier for X (where X provides limited
> > > > + functionality when Y is not initialized and providing its services), then
> > > > + trying to initialize the devices in a loop (or arbitrarily) could end up with
> > > > + the devices being initialized in the following order:
> > > > +
> > > > + * Z, Y and X - All devices provide full functionality
> > > > + * Z, X and Y - X provides partial functionality
> > > > + * X, Z and Y - X provides partial functionality
> > > > +
> > > > + However, we always want to initialize the devices in the order Z, Y and X
> > > > + since that provides the full functionality without interruptions.
> > > > +
> > > > + One alternate option that might be suggested is to have the driver for X
> > > > + notice that Y became available at a later point and adjust the functionality
> > > > + it provides. However, other userspace applications could have started using X
> > > > + with the limited functionality before Y was available and it might not be
> > > > + possible to transparently transition X or the users of X to full
> > > > + functionality while X is in use.
> > > > +
> > > > + Similarly, when it comes to suspend (resume) ordering, it's unclear which
> > > > + device in a dependency cycle needs to be suspended/resumed first and trying
> > > > + arbitrary orders can result in system crashes or instability.
> > > > +
> > > > + Explicitly calling out which link in a cycle needs to be broken when
> > > > + determining the order, simplifies things a lot, improves efficiency, makes
> > > > + the behavior more deterministic and maximizes the functionality that can be
> > > > + provided without interruption.
> > > > +
> > > > + This property is used to provide this additional information between devices
> > > > + in a cycle by telling which supplier(s) is not needed for initializing the
> > > > + device that lists this property.
> > > > +
> > > > + In the example above, Z would list X as a post-init-supplier and the
> > > > + initialization dependency would become X -> Y -> Z -/-> X. So the best order
> > > > + to initialize them become clear: Z, Y and then X.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, I think this is a great description, describing the use case
> > > well :)
> >
> > Thanks! I always spend more time writing documentation and commit text
> > than the time I spend writing code.
> >
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +select: true
> > > > +properties:
> > > > + post-init-supplier:
> >
> > [Merging your other email here]
> >
> > > Also, this should likely be pluralised, to match "clocks" "resets"
> > > "interrupts" etc.
> >
> > Good point. Done.
> >
> > > > + # One or more suppliers can be marked as post initialization supplier
> > > > + description:
> > > > + List of phandles to suppliers that are not needed for initializing or
> > > > + resuming this device.
> > > > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
> > > > + items:
> > > > + maxItems: 1
> > >
> > > Rob's bot rightfully complains here about invalid syntax.
> >
> > I added these two lines based on Rob's feedback. Is the indentation
> > that's wrong?
>
> Aye, both items: and maxItems: need to lose a level of indent. That
> said, its not actually restricting anything. I fixed it up locally and
> you can put as many elements as you like into each phandle and it does
> not care. Maybe Rob can tell what is going wrong there..

I made that fix and now I'm getting this:
$ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
DT_SCHEMA_FILES=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml
DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dts
LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
'oneOf' conditional failed, one must be fixed:
'unevaluatedProperties' is a required property
'additionalProperties' is a required property
hint: Either unevaluatedProperties or additionalProperties
must be present
from schema $id: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tpm/ibm,vtpm.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema:
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/soc/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: allOf: 0: then: properties: pinmux
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/lantiq,pef2256.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties: lantiq,data-rate-bps
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema:
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,mprls0025pa.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,hsc030pa.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal
DTC_CHK Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
/example-0/clock-controller@1000: failed to match any schema with
compatible: ['vendor,soc4-gcc', 'vendor,soc1-gcc']
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
/example-0/clock-controller@1000: failed to match any schema with
compatible: ['vendor,soc4-gcc', 'vendor,soc1-gcc']
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
/example-0/clock-controller@2000: failed to match any schema with
compatible: ['vendor,soc4-dispcc', 'vendor,soc1-dispcc']
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dtb:0:0:
/example-0/clock-controller@2000: failed to match any schema with
compatible: ['vendor,soc4-dispcc', 'vendor,soc1-dispcc']

But I guess the "oneOf" error is because the yaml is being treated as
a description of a DT node and not a schema?

Rob,

Can you let me know how to move ahead with this? I'll do the fixes
that Conor suggested in v3.

-Saravana

>
> >
> > Yeah, I'm trying to run the dts checker, but I haven't be able to get
> > it to work on my end. See my email to Rob on the v1 series about this.
> >
> > $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
> >
> > The best I could get out of it is a bunch of error reports on other
> > files and then:
> > ...
> > <snip>/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> > ignoring, error parsing file
> > ...
>
> Yup, that is about right, although you snipped out the actual complaint.
>
> >
> > I also tried to use DT_SCHEMA_FILES so I can only test this one file,
> > but that wasn't working either:
> >
> > $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
> > DT_SCHEMA_FILES=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliersyaml
> > or
> > $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check DT_SCHEMA_FILES=<path to
> > the .patch file>
> >
> > Results in this error early on in the output:
> > ...
> > usage: yamllint [-h] [-] [-c CONFIG_FILE | -d CONFIG_DATA]
> > [--list-files] [-f {parsable,standard,colored,github,auto}] [-s]
> > [--no-warnings] [-v] [FILE_OR_DIR ...]
> > yamllint: error: one of the arguments FILE_OR_DIR - is required
> > ...
> > /mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> > ignoring, error parsing file
> > ...
>
> That is part of the actual complaint:
>
> make dt_binding_check W=1 -j 30 DT_SCHEMA_FILES=post-init-supplier.yaml
> LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
> DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: mapping values are not allowed here
> make[2]: *** [Documentation/devicetree/bindings/Makefile:26: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts] Error 1
> make[2]: *** Deleting file 'Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts'
> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
> ./Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: [error] syntax error: mapping values are not allowed here (syntax)
> CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> ./Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12: mapping values are not allowed here
> SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> /stuff/linux-dt/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml: ignoring, error parsing file
> make[1]: *** [/stuff/linux-dt/Makefile:1432: dt_binding_check] Error 2
> make: *** [Makefile:240: __sub-make] Error 2

2024-02-21 04:08:44

by Saravana Kannan

[permalink] [raw]
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: Add post-init-supplier property

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 2:27 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 15/02/2024 00:32, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> >
> > Good point. Done.
> >
> >>> + # One or more suppliers can be marked as post initialization supplier
> >>> + description:
> >>> + List of phandles to suppliers that are not needed for initializing or
> >>> + resuming this device.
> >>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle-array
> >>> + items:
> >>> + maxItems: 1
> >>
> >> Rob's bot rightfully complains here about invalid syntax.
> >
> > I added these two lines based on Rob's feedback. Is the indentation
> > that's wrong?
> >
> > Yeah, I'm trying to run the dts checker, but I haven't be able to get
> > it to work on my end. See my email to Rob on the v1 series about this.
> >
> > $ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
> >
> > The best I could get out of it is a bunch of error reports on other
> > files and then:
> > ...
> > <snip>/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
> > ignoring, error parsing file
> > ...
> >
> > I also tried to use DT_SCHEMA_FILES so I can only test this one file,
> > but that wasn't working either:
>
> I see the errors immediately during testing, no special arguments needed:
>
> crosc64_dt_binding_check post-init-supplier.yaml
> make[1]: Entering directory '/home/krzk/dev/linux/linux/out'
> LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
> DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts
> ../Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12:
> [error] syntax error: mapping values are not allowed here (syntax)
> CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> ../Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12:
> mapping values are not allowed in this context
> make[3]: *** [../Documentation/devicetree/bindings/Makefile:26:
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts] Error 1
> make[3]: *** Deleting file
> 'Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.example.dts'
> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
> ../Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:84:12:
> mapping values are not allowed in this context
> SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
> /home/krzk/dev/linux/linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-supplier.yaml:
> ignoring, error parsing file
> make[2]: *** [/home/krzk/dev/linux/linux/Makefile:1424:
> dt_binding_check] Error 2
> make[1]: *** [/home/krzk/dev/linux/linux/Makefile:240: __sub-make] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/krzk/dev/linux/linux/out'
> make: *** [Makefile:240: __sub-make] Error 2

I think I was just getting overwhelmed with the sea of error logs I
saw (for unrelated files). If I don't use the flags it's way too noisy
and it's not always the first thing that's reported.

This is what I see now and I think I now understand what to look for.

$ make DT_CHECKER_FLAGS=-m dt_binding_check
DT_SCHEMA_FILES=Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml
LINT Documentation/devicetree/bindings
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:84:12:
[error] syntax error: mapping values are not allowed here (syntax)
CHKDT Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:84:12:
mapping values are not allowed in this context
SCHEMA Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/tpm/ibm,vtpm.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:
ignoring, error parsing file
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/soc/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: allOf: 0: then: properties: pinmux
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/lantiq,pef2256.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties: lantiq,data-rate-bps
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,mprls0025pa.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmin-pascal
/mnt/android/linus-tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/pressure/honeywell,hsc030pa.yaml:
ignoring, error in schema: properties: honeywell,pmax-pascal
DTEX Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dts
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.yaml:84:12:
mapping values are not allowed in this context
make[2]: *** [Documentation/devicetree/bindings/Makefile:26:
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dts]
Error 1
make[2]: *** Deleting file
'Documentation/devicetree/bindings/post-init-suppliers.example.dts'
make[1]: *** [/mnt/android/linus-tree/Makefile:1432: dt_binding_check] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:240: __sub-make] Error 2

>
>
> https://www.linaro.org/blog/tips-and-tricks-for-validating-devicetree-sources-with-the-devicetree-schema/
>
> I assume you develop on some older trees, because both next and v6.8-rc1
> work... or standard issues: old dtschema, old yamllint.
>
> I am afraid you do it for some old Android kernel... :(

No, I always develop on Linus's tree and test it on an android kernel
that's behind Linus's tree by a month or so.

My yamllint version is 1.32.0, but until 2 weeks ago the latest
yamllint version was 1.33.0.

And dt-schema is 2022.08.2-5 and I had to revert this from Linus's
tree to get it to work:
b32dcf23a03e dt-bindings: Drop kernel copy of common reserved-memory bindings

Unfortunately, AFAIK, I don't have permissions to change the package
repo, so can't really install a newer version.

Thanks for the tips.

-Saravana



-Saravana