2002-02-14 02:56:21

by Hiro Yoshioka

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Subject: status of LKCD into Linux Kernel

Hi,

I have a naive question. Will the LKCD be merged into
the Linus' kernel? If yes, when? wild guess?

http://kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html
status is alpha. what does it mean?

please cc to me, because I'm not on the lkcd-general/linux-kernel
mailing list.

Regards,
Hiro
--
Hiro Yoshioka/CTO, Miracle Linux
mailto:[email protected]
http://www.miraclelinux.com


2002-02-14 04:36:13

by Guillaume Boissiere

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Subject: Re: status of LKCD into Linux Kernel

> I have a naive question. Will the LKCD be merged into
> the Linus' kernel? If yes, when? wild guess?
>
> http://kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html
> status is alpha. what does it mean?
>
> please cc to me, because I'm not on the lkcd-general/linux-kernel
> mailing list.

Hi Hiro,

I am the maintainer of the 2.5 status page. There is an explanation of
what alpha, beta, etc. mean if you go to http://kernelnewbies.org/status/
and click on the link at the bottom.
The project status usually reflects what the project maintainer told me
or just my best guess, so take it with a grain of salt :-)
This page is for information purposes only.

One more thing I should reiterate: it's not because an item is on this
list that it will be included in 2.5. In fact, I expect many items in
there to never make it into 2.5. What goes in is ultimately Linus'
decision.

Actually, it'd be fun to have a contest (now that we are at the
beginning of the 2.5 series) to see what people think are the items the
least likely to get in!

-- Guillaume

2002-02-14 05:57:25

by Jeff Garzik

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Subject: Re: status of LKCD into Linux Kernel

Hiro Yoshioka wrote:
> I have a naive question. Will the LKCD be merged into
> the Linus' kernel? If yes, when? wild guess?

I talked with Matt Robinson(sp?) at LinuxWorld-NY about LKCD for a few
minutes... he gave me the impression that a lot of progress has been
made recently. IBM apparently has some guys working on it, too.

I've always thought Linux needs industrial strength crash dumps like the
other Unices. There are many benefits, but my own is self interest:
bug reports get 1000 times better, since you get along with the crash
point a lot more info about the state of the system at the time of the
crash.

So, I hope LKCD is looked upon favorably by the Penguin Gods. :)

Jeff



--
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Building 1024 | through an internally-buttered weasel."
MandrakeSoft | - goats.com

2002-02-14 06:40:59

by Matt D. Robinson

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Subject: Re: [lkcd-general] Re: status of LKCD into Linux Kernel

A lot of progress has been made ...

LKCD is currently up to 2.4.17, and should be simple to
move into 2.5.

I've asked Linus and others for inclusion in the past, and I
think it deserves consideration for 2.5, especially now that it
can be built into the kernel without having to be turned on.
At least in those cases, people who want it can turn it on,
and those that don't will never see it.

The LKCD development team (over 10 engineers now) is ready.

--Matt

Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
> Hiro Yoshioka wrote:
> > I have a naive question. Will the LKCD be merged into
> > the Linus' kernel? If yes, when? wild guess?
>
> I talked with Matt Robinson(sp?) at LinuxWorld-NY about LKCD for a few
> minutes... he gave me the impression that a lot of progress has been
> made recently. IBM apparently has some guys working on it, too.
>
> I've always thought Linux needs industrial strength crash dumps like the
> other Unices. There are many benefits, but my own is self interest:
> bug reports get 1000 times better, since you get along with the crash
> point a lot more info about the state of the system at the time of the
> crash.
>
> So, I hope LKCD is looked upon favorably by the Penguin Gods. :)
>
> Jeff

2002-02-14 08:56:31

by Go Taniguchi

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Subject: Re: [lkcd-general] Re: status of LKCD into Linux Kernel

At my point of view, LKCD is convinced that it is the most important technology
for us.

It seems to be LKCD is just working perfectly with our 2.4.17 kernel.
It reduces plenty of time for analysing Oops. Hence,for engineers like us, LKCD
is necessary.

I am really looking forward that LKCD will be merged into Kernel main-tree
in the near future. If it is possible that would probably be much better if
the user ability and time for analysing can be improved.

I really appreciate everybody's works in this super team-LKCD.

Thanks again,
-- GO!

Matt D. Robinson wrote:

> A lot of progress has been made ...
>
> LKCD is currently up to 2.4.17, and should be simple to
> move into 2.5.
>
> I've asked Linus and others for inclusion in the past, and I
> think it deserves consideration for 2.5, especially now that it
> can be built into the kernel without having to be turned on.
> At least in those cases, people who want it can turn it on,
> and those that don't will never see it.
>
> The LKCD development team (over 10 engineers now) is ready.
>
> --Matt
>
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Hiro Yoshioka wrote:
>>
>>>I have a naive question. Will the LKCD be merged into
>>>the Linus' kernel? If yes, when? wild guess?
>>>
>>I talked with Matt Robinson(sp?) at LinuxWorld-NY about LKCD for a few
>>minutes... he gave me the impression that a lot of progress has been
>>made recently. IBM apparently has some guys working on it, too.
>>
>>I've always thought Linux needs industrial strength crash dumps like the
>>other Unices. There are many benefits, but my own is self interest:
>>bug reports get 1000 times better, since you get along with the crash
>>point a lot more info about the state of the system at the time of the
>>crash.
>>
>>So, I hope LKCD is looked upon favorably by the Penguin Gods. :)
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
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>
>


2002-02-15 02:54:23

by Hiro Yoshioka

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Subject: Re: [lkcd-general] Re: status of LKCD into Linux Kernel

Hi,

Thanks to all.

I has been asked by customers, ISV vendors and many
to support a crash dump facility in the linux kernel.

I'd like to know issues/concerns to be merged the LKCD into
the kernel if any.

By the way, who is the kernel people to maintain a
dump facility? Linus? Dave?

Regards,
Hiro
--
Hiro Yoshioka/CTO, Miracle Linux
mailto:[email protected]
http://www.miraclelinux.com

From: Go Taniguchi <[email protected]>
> At my point of view, LKCD is convinced that it is the most important technology
> for us.
>
> It seems to be LKCD is just working perfectly with our 2.4.17 kernel.
> It reduces plenty of time for analysing Oops. Hence,for engineers like us, LKCD
> is necessary.
>
> I am really looking forward that LKCD will be merged into Kernel main-tree
> in the near future. If it is possible that would probably be much better if
> the user ability and time for analysing can be improved.
>
> I really appreciate everybody's works in this super team-LKCD.
>
> Thanks again,
> -- GO!
>
> Matt D. Robinson wrote:
>
> > A lot of progress has been made ...
> >
> > LKCD is currently up to 2.4.17, and should be simple to
> > move into 2.5.
> >
> > I've asked Linus and others for inclusion in the past, and I
> > think it deserves consideration for 2.5, especially now that it
> > can be built into the kernel without having to be turned on.
> > At least in those cases, people who want it can turn it on,
> > and those that don't will never see it.
> >
> > The LKCD development team (over 10 engineers now) is ready.
> >
> > --Matt
> >
> > Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> >>Hiro Yoshioka wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a naive question. Will the LKCD be merged into
> >>>the Linus' kernel? If yes, when? wild guess?
> >>>
> >>I talked with Matt Robinson(sp?) at LinuxWorld-NY about LKCD for a few
> >>minutes... he gave me the impression that a lot of progress has been
> >>made recently. IBM apparently has some guys working on it, too.
> >>
> >>I've always thought Linux needs industrial strength crash dumps like the
> >>other Unices. There are many benefits, but my own is self interest:
> >>bug reports get 1000 times better, since you get along with the crash
> >>point a lot more info about the state of the system at the time of the
> >>crash.
> >>
> >>So, I hope LKCD is looked upon favorably by the Penguin Gods. :)
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lkcd-general mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lkcd-general
> >
> >
>