2008-02-14 23:12:23

by John W. Linville

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Subject: Upstream wireless process changes

Greetings,

Given current discussions, it seems timely to revamp some of the
upstream wireless tree management policies. I'm sure I still won't
be able to please everyone, but maybe I can change who gets to be
unhappy about the process... :-)

Let's review the current process. The wireless-2.6 tree has a number
of branches, each with a specific use. Most of these are for my own
administrative purposes relating to coping with the processes upstream
from me. These include any "fixes", "upstream", or "pending" branches,
as well as any "master-*" branches. There are also "merged-*" branches
which I maintain to assist me when rebases are necessary. In addition,
there have been topic branches such as "at76" and (formerly) "ath5k".
And there is the "mm-master" branch, which primarily just collects
the topic branches together for testing in -mm.

The "everything" branch is an integration branch which collects patches
from all the "fixes", "upstream", and "pending" branches as well
as any topic branches. This is the branch I ask developers to use.
The purpose of this branch is to avoid having API-level patches miss
any drivers as well as to avoid any similar conflicts.

Finally, in the old process the "master" branch always just pointed
at the most recent full or -rc release from Linus. This always seemed
to confuse users looking for the "latest and greatest" wireless bits.
Moreover, all the branches created confusion among both users and
developers.

The new process shifts from reliance on branches to the use of
several trees. Each tree may have some placeholder branches used for
administrative purposes, but the interesting bits will be committed
on the "master" branches of those trees to avoid confusion about
which tree normal people should use.

The wireless-2.6 tree will primarily become a vehicle for pushing
patches to the current -rc release. This replaces the former "fixes"
branches. It is my intent that this will not be rebased except in
the most extreme (and unforseen) circumstances.

A new wireless-2.6.26 tree (or 2.6.x as appropriate in the future) will
be the vehicle for queueing patches to net-2.6.26 (or its successors)
in anticipation of the next merge window. This tree will regularly
be updated to correspond to the current state of net-2.6.26. I will
avoid rebasing this tree as much as possible, but given its dependence
on net-2.6.26 I will be somewhat at Dave's mercy... :-)

Finally, a new wireless-testing tree will be created to replace the
usage of the former 'everything' branch. This tree will be based
on a current -rc release in hopes avoiding the churn in between
-rc releases. The tree may contain topic branches (e.g. "at76")
as appropriate, as well as picked commits from wireless-2.6 and
wireless-2.6.26. I will attempt to limit rebasing this tree as much as
practical, at the expense of having some ugly history. However, this
tree almost certainly will be rebased from time to time, and you should
expect any patches in this tree to be re-committed in wireless-2.6
or wireless-2.6.26 before going upstream -- you have been warned!

I hope that this "covers all the bases" for our various process
needs (merging fixes, queueing for the merge window, integration and
on-going development). Any coments or suggestions you might have
are welcome now. :-)

So, comments?

Thanks,

John
--
John W. Linville
[email protected]


2008-02-18 16:02:06

by John W. Linville

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Subject: Re: Upstream wireless process changes

On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:29:14AM +0900, bruno randolf wrote:
> On Friday 15 February 2008 07:57:28 John W. Linville wrote:

> > Finally, a new wireless-testing tree will be created to replace the
> > usage of the former 'everything' branch. This tree will be based

> this might be a stupid question, but which tree do you expect us to base
> regular development patches on? i basically don't really care when my patches
> are merged upstream, and i don't know enough about upstream processes to
> decide that, so i think i'll better leave that decision up to you :)

I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought I was... :-)

Please use wireless-testing as your primary development target.

Thanks!

John
--
John W. Linville
[email protected]

2008-02-18 02:29:23

by Bruno Randolf

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Subject: Re: Upstream wireless process changes

On Friday 15 February 2008 07:57:28 John W. Linville wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Given current discussions, it seems timely to revamp some of the
> upstream wireless tree management policies. I'm sure I still won't
> be able to please everyone, but maybe I can change who gets to be
> unhappy about the process... :-)
>
> Let's review the current process. The wireless-2.6 tree has a number
> of branches, each with a specific use. Most of these are for my own
> administrative purposes relating to coping with the processes upstream
> from me. These include any "fixes", "upstream", or "pending" branches,
> as well as any "master-*" branches. There are also "merged-*" branches
> which I maintain to assist me when rebases are necessary. In addition,
> there have been topic branches such as "at76" and (formerly) "ath5k".
> And there is the "mm-master" branch, which primarily just collects
> the topic branches together for testing in -mm.
>
> The "everything" branch is an integration branch which collects patches
> from all the "fixes", "upstream", and "pending" branches as well
> as any topic branches. This is the branch I ask developers to use.
> The purpose of this branch is to avoid having API-level patches miss
> any drivers as well as to avoid any similar conflicts.
>
> Finally, in the old process the "master" branch always just pointed
> at the most recent full or -rc release from Linus. This always seemed
> to confuse users looking for the "latest and greatest" wireless bits.
> Moreover, all the branches created confusion among both users and
> developers.
>
> The new process shifts from reliance on branches to the use of
> several trees. Each tree may have some placeholder branches used for
> administrative purposes, but the interesting bits will be committed
> on the "master" branches of those trees to avoid confusion about
> which tree normal people should use.
>
> The wireless-2.6 tree will primarily become a vehicle for pushing
> patches to the current -rc release. This replaces the former "fixes"
> branches. It is my intent that this will not be rebased except in
> the most extreme (and unforseen) circumstances.
>
> A new wireless-2.6.26 tree (or 2.6.x as appropriate in the future) will
> be the vehicle for queueing patches to net-2.6.26 (or its successors)
> in anticipation of the next merge window. This tree will regularly
> be updated to correspond to the current state of net-2.6.26. I will
> avoid rebasing this tree as much as possible, but given its dependence
> on net-2.6.26 I will be somewhat at Dave's mercy... :-)
>
> Finally, a new wireless-testing tree will be created to replace the
> usage of the former 'everything' branch. This tree will be based
> on a current -rc release in hopes avoiding the churn in between
> -rc releases. The tree may contain topic branches (e.g. "at76")
> as appropriate, as well as picked commits from wireless-2.6 and
> wireless-2.6.26. I will attempt to limit rebasing this tree as much as
> practical, at the expense of having some ugly history. However, this
> tree almost certainly will be rebased from time to time, and you should
> expect any patches in this tree to be re-committed in wireless-2.6
> or wireless-2.6.26 before going upstream -- you have been warned!
>
> I hope that this "covers all the bases" for our various process
> needs (merging fixes, queueing for the merge window, integration and
> on-going development). Any coments or suggestions you might have
> are welcome now. :-)
>
> So, comments?

this might be a stupid question, but which tree do you expect us to base
regular development patches on? i basically don't really care when my patches
are merged upstream, and i don't know enough about upstream processes to
decide that, so i think i'll better leave that decision up to you :)

thanks,
bruno