2007-08-13 07:05:26

by Joe Perches

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Subject: [PATCH] [85/2many] MAINTAINERS - BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE

Add file pattern to MAINTAINER entry

Signed-off-by: Joe Perches <[email protected]>

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index a78c8e8..6afe57b 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -877,6 +877,8 @@ M: [email protected]
L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
W: http://blackfin.uclinux.org
S: Supported
+F: arch/blackfin/
+F: include/asm-blackfin/

BLACKFIN EMAC DRIVER
P: Bryan Wu


2007-08-22 10:17:27

by Bryan Wu

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Subject: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>
---
MAINTAINERS | 28 ----------------------------
1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index e4dde7f..55ac8e5 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -717,34 +717,6 @@ M: [email protected]
S: Maintained

BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
-P: Aubrey Li
-M: [email protected]
-P: Bernd Schmidt
-M: [email protected]
-P: Bryan Wu
-M: [email protected]
-P: Grace Pan
-M: [email protected]
-P: Marc Hoffman
-M: [email protected]
-P: Michael Hennerich
-M: [email protected]
-P: Mike Frysinger
-M: [email protected]
-P: Jerry Zeng
-M: [email protected]
-P: Jie Zhang
-M: [email protected]
-P: Robin Getz
-M: [email protected]
-P: Roy Huang
-M: [email protected]
-P: Sonic Zhang
-M: [email protected]
-P: Vivi Li
-M: [email protected]
-P: Yi Li
-M: [email protected]
L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
W: http://blackfin.uclinux.org
S: Supported
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2007-08-22 10:24:16

by Michal Piotrowski

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

Hi Bryan,

On 22/08/07, Bryan Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>
> ---
> MAINTAINERS | 28 ----------------------------
> 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index e4dde7f..55ac8e5 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -717,34 +717,6 @@ M: [email protected]
> S: Maintained
>
> BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
> -P: Aubrey Li
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Bernd Schmidt
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Bryan Wu
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Grace Pan
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Marc Hoffman
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Michael Hennerich
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Mike Frysinger
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Jerry Zeng
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Jie Zhang
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Robin Getz
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Roy Huang
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Sonic Zhang
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Vivi Li
> -M: [email protected]
> -P: Yi Li
> -M: [email protected]
> L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)

It is subscribers-only - I do not want to subscribe list only for
sending/forwarding messages/bug reports/known regressions weekly
newsletter.

> W: http://blackfin.uclinux.org
> S: Supported

Regards,
Michal

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LOG
http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/log/

2007-08-22 10:45:36

by Mike Frysinger

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On 8/22/07, Michal Piotrowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 22/08/07, Bryan Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>
> > L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
>
> It is subscribers-only - I do not want to subscribe list only for
> sending/forwarding messages/bug reports/known regressions weekly
> newsletter.

it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe, we will
forward any relevant messages
-mike

2007-08-22 14:46:29

by Bryan Wu

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 06:45 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On 8/22/07, Michal Piotrowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 22/08/07, Bryan Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>
> > > L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
> >
> > It is subscribers-only - I do not want to subscribe list only for
> > sending/forwarding messages/bug reports/known regressions weekly
> > newsletter.
>
> it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe, we will
> forward any relevant messages
> -mike

So, I will delete "(subscribers-only)" and post a patch later.

- Bryan Wu

2007-08-22 14:55:32

by Bryan Wu

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Subject: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>
---
MAINTAINERS | 30 +-----------------------------
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index 371fe67..982e51a 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -717,35 +717,7 @@ M: [email protected]
S: Maintained

BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
-P: Aubrey Li
-M: [email protected]
-P: Bernd Schmidt
-M: [email protected]
-P: Bryan Wu
-M: [email protected]
-P: Grace Pan
-M: [email protected]
-P: Marc Hoffman
-M: [email protected]
-P: Michael Hennerich
-M: [email protected]
-P: Mike Frysinger
-M: [email protected]
-P: Jerry Zeng
-M: [email protected]
-P: Jie Zhang
-M: [email protected]
-P: Robin Getz
-M: [email protected]
-P: Roy Huang
-M: [email protected]
-P: Sonic Zhang
-M: [email protected]
-P: Vivi Li
-M: [email protected]
-P: Yi Li
-M: [email protected]
-L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
+L: [email protected]
W: http://blackfin.uclinux.org
S: Supported

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1.5.2

2007-08-22 22:12:53

by Joe Perches

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 22:55 +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>

Perhaps this is better?

BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
P: Blackfin Architecture Team
M: [email protected]
L: [email protected]
W: http://blackfin.uclinux.org
S: Supported
F: arch/blackfin/
F: include/asm-blackfin/



2007-08-23 02:58:31

by Bryan Wu

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 15:12 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 22:55 +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>
>
> Perhaps this is better?
>
> BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
> P: Blackfin Architecture Team
> M: [email protected]
> L: [email protected]
> W: http://blackfin.uclinux.org
> S: Supported
> F: arch/blackfin/
> F: include/asm-blackfin/
>
>

Thanks, it is ok

Acked-by: Bryan Wu <[email protected]>

2007-08-24 00:23:56

by Matt Mackall

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:55:11PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> -L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
> +L: [email protected]

Does your list generate a complaint message back to the sender if a
non-subscriber posts to it? If so, it qualifies as a subscribers-only
list.

--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

2007-08-24 04:07:03

by Bryan Wu

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 19:24 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:55:11PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> > -L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
> > +L: [email protected]
>
> Does your list generate a complaint message back to the sender if a
> non-subscriber posts to it? If so, it qualifies as a subscribers-only
> list.
>

As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
we will
forward any relevant messages"

Thanks
- Bryan Wu

2007-08-24 04:56:19

by Matt Mackall

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:04:47PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 19:24 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:55:11PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> > > -L: [email protected] (subscribers-only)
> > > +L: [email protected]
> >
> > Does your list generate a complaint message back to the sender if a
> > non-subscriber posts to it? If so, it qualifies as a subscribers-only
> > list.
> >
>
> As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> we will
> forward any relevant messages"

And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.

--
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2007-08-24 09:02:47

by Alan

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

> > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > we will
> > forward any relevant messages"
>
> And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.

It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
pending moderation.

The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
setting up smart enough mail filters ?

2007-08-24 16:13:59

by Matt Mackall

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> >
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
>
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.
>
> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
"subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
automated messages.

--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

2007-08-24 17:42:28

by Andy Isaacson

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> >
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
>
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.

It's another waste of space in my inbox due to poorly-implemented
software.

If their mailman installation uses a whitelist, so I get *one* message
per list rather than a bounce for every message I send, then that's
somewhat acceptable. If I get mailbombed just for participating in a
thread on lkml, that's definitely not acceptable (and I will remove such
lists from the Cc).

It would be vastly better if mailman were smart enough to autoapprove
threaded replies -- it's not as if the spammers are any more likely to
forge In-Reply-To: than From: (which they already do). Or even to not
waste my time by sending a "held for moderation" message until it's
processed by the listowner.

> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

Not sure what ad hominem attacks have to do with this situation. It's
not as if I can reasonably /dev/null all mailman gunk; if there's a real
exception condition, I want to see it.

-andy

2007-08-24 21:11:57

by Mike Frysinger

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Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On 8/24/07, Matt Mackall <[email protected]> wrote:
> My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
> that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
> in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
> conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
> Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
> "subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
> thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

there's a difference between getting a response that says it's being
held pending a moderator approving it and a response that says it's
been flat out rejected until you subscribe

> Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
> off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
> list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
> automated messages.

that's easy enough to do
-mike