2021-08-05 21:38:02

by Jan Kiszka

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Subject: wwan/iosm vs. xmm7360

Hi Chetan,

at the risk of having missed this being answered already:

How close is the older xmm7360 to the now supported xmm7560 in mainline?

There is that reverse engineered PCI driver [1] with non-standard
userland interface, and it would obviously be great to benefit from
common infrastructure and specifically the modem-manager compatible
interface. Is this realistic to achieve for the 7360, or is that
hardware or its firmware too different?

Thanks,
Jan

[1] https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci

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2021-08-06 09:44:21

by Jan Kiszka

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Subject: Re: wwan/iosm vs. xmm7360

On 06.08.21 11:29, Kumar, M Chetan wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> What is the context of this request ?

The context is that there are many folks out there (me included - Lenovo
P52) with devices that have the xmm-7360 built-in, can't switch it to
USB mode (prevented by OEM), and currently require [1]. That kind of
works but is not really the final solution. So I also kicked off [2] there.

>
> FYI, the driver upstreamed is for M.2 7560.

I know. I'm not an expert on the details, but reading the overall
architectures of the IOSM and what has been reverse-engineered for the
7360, there seem to be some similarities. So, maybe you can explain to
the community if that is a reasonable path to upstream 7360 support, or
if at least the pattern of the 7560 could/should be transferred to the
7360 driver.

Thanks,
Jan

[2] https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci/issues/104

>
> Regards,
> Chetan
>
> On 8/6/2021 2:09 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Hi Chetan,
>>
>> at the risk of having missed this being answered already:
>>
>> How close is the older xmm7360 to the now supported xmm7560 in mainline?
>>
>> There is that reverse engineered PCI driver [1] with non-standard
>> userland interface, and it would obviously be great to benefit from
>> common infrastructure and specifically the modem-manager compatible
>> interface. Is this realistic to achieve for the 7360, or is that
>> hardware or its firmware too different?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jan
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci
>>

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2021-08-06 14:19:03

by Kumar, M Chetan

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Subject: Re: wwan/iosm vs. xmm7360

Hi Jan,

What is the context of this request ?

FYI, the driver upstreamed is for M.2 7560.

Regards,
Chetan

On 8/6/2021 2:09 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Hi Chetan,
>
> at the risk of having missed this being answered already:
>
> How close is the older xmm7360 to the now supported xmm7560 in mainline?
>
> There is that reverse engineered PCI driver [1] with non-standard
> userland interface, and it would obviously be great to benefit from
> common infrastructure and specifically the modem-manager compatible
> interface. Is this realistic to achieve for the 7360, or is that
> hardware or its firmware too different?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
> [1] https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci
>

2021-09-07 19:24:06

by Florian Klink

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Subject: Re: wwan/iosm vs. xmm7360

On 21-08-06 11:41:27, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>On 06.08.21 11:29, Kumar, M Chetan wrote:
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> What is the context of this request ?
>
>The context is that there are many folks out there (me included - Lenovo
>P52) with devices that have the xmm-7360 built-in, can't switch it to
>USB mode (prevented by OEM), and currently require [1]. That kind of
>works but is not really the final solution. So I also kicked off [2] there.

It also seems the 7560 card doesn't show up in my X13 AMD (Gen 1) at all
- so even if I'd "upgrade" that card, I couldn't use it.

>I know. I'm not an expert on the details, but reading the overall
>architectures of the IOSM and what has been reverse-engineered for the
>7360, there seem to be some similarities. So, maybe you can explain to
>the community if that is a reasonable path to upstream 7360 support, or
>if at least the pattern of the 7560 could/should be transferred to the
>7360 driver.

Very curious about this as well - they might share some code at lest, if
not even the driver?

Regards,
Florian

>
>Thanks,
>Jan
>
>[2] https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci/issues/104
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chetan
>>
>> On 8/6/2021 2:09 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> Hi Chetan,
>>>
>>> at the risk of having missed this being answered already:
>>>
>>> How close is the older xmm7360 to the now supported xmm7560 in mainline?
>>>
>>> There is that reverse engineered PCI driver [1] with non-standard
>>> userland interface, and it would obviously be great to benefit from
>>> common infrastructure and specifically the modem-manager compatible
>>> interface. Is this realistic to achieve for the 7360, or is that
>>> hardware or its firmware too different?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci
>>>
>
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